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+64pudldudl Tonci vat69 Fuloflop milac munjoz Drogi Andre_787 BosnaPonosna Djursan AApolon72 lion406 kelavi staggy stu Ajkula pero_zg ribaaaaaa Las&co zamorano11 Dace Painkiller0 niveaformen sinisaT5 malamaca bicko M88 shteva Danicro1 DonkeyRi Irac mich_bjukenon vdbino tequilaman Sandrinho ma jee anuska1504 snegi kanper kamencic Cookie DisD Brky hrvoje07 Bora Tajter Dr.Greenthumb mario66617 50lipa butko miroror dulesavic ZDMitch DirtyCash90s dfable sfc_karabaja eSco debakl RedRaw sluga Chiro23 lolredline veyst555 stvarno_nemam_dara hEadAche1 68 posters | |
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Djursan Set
Number of posts : 289 Location : Zagreb Poker Site : Live poker only Karma : 12
| Subject: Re: *Official* NH sir thread 19.11.10 9:38 | |
| sick fold. Nebi ovo bacio samo zbog jedne sitnice. Iako line izgleda kao da je flopao str8 flush, nekako me bode u oči upravo turn bet u tebe na 4. karu. Ti si betao pf i flop, on može pretpostaviti da nemaš karu i logično razmišljanje mi je da villain sa nutsom neće ići u tebe jer u većini slučajeva pretpostavlja da ti je 4. kara scary, pa nema smisla da te tjera. Njegov check na turnu bi mi više pasao tom slučaju da te pusti da se spari board i da te onda zastecka. Da sam ja sa tim hendom u ruci nikada nebi betao turn u tebe sa 4 d na boardu. Instant bi ga callao, pa ko ga jebe ako ima 910d odigrao je ko kreten. On value na ovaj način izvlači samo u slučaju da ti imaš taj nesretni Ad, a to mi je longshot za pretpostaviti jer tvoj range je dosta velik, a on hoće izvući maksimum iz svog monstera. | |
| | | sinisaT5 Tris
Number of posts : 161 Location : Zagreb Poker Site : Pokerstars Karma : 5
| Subject: Re: *Official* NH sir thread 19.11.10 10:06 | |
| po meni je villain ovaj turn bet dobro odigrao ako je imao str.fl. jer tako ionako ne dobiva value ni od jedne druge karte na bordu s 4 kare osim A kara, a pretpostavlja da će s tom kartom hero ići all in. | |
| | | Djursan Set
Number of posts : 289 Location : Zagreb Poker Site : Live poker only Karma : 12
| Subject: Re: *Official* NH sir thread 19.11.10 10:32 | |
| - sinisaT5 wrote:
- po meni je villain ovaj turn bet dobro odigrao ako je imao str.fl. jer tako ionako ne dobiva value ni od jedne druge karte na bordu s 4 kare osim A kara, a pretpostavlja da će s tom kartom hero ići all in.
Pa to je jasno, ali zašto ti nebi dao šansu da uhvatiš spareni board, ili pretvoriš jaku ruku u blef? Ovaj scenarij je iznimno malo vjerojatan. | |
| | | mich_bjukenon Boja
Number of posts : 607 Location : zagorje zelene Poker Site : pokerstars Karma : 21
| Subject: Re: *Official* NH sir thread 19.11.10 10:37 | |
| hmm,po meni kljucan je call na flopu,s cim on tu calla ovaj jako zajebani flop,naravno 9dTd,JJ i 88.....AA,KK,QQ 3beta pf tak da to nista,mozda cak i JJ na sb,calla znaci s 9dTd i 88 ili jos mozda 67s pf,ako nije pretvorio set u bluff i ako je dobar igrac onda je dobar fold...sve ostalo je jako debilno odigrano... | |
| | | DirtyCash90s Boja
Number of posts : 578 Location : Zagreb Poker Site : FTP Karma : 24
| Subject: Re: *Official* NH sir thread 19.11.10 12:14 | |
| Nadam se bar da se fold isplatio i da si dobio neku dobru lovu. Neznam, range mu je ovdje toliko polariziran na Ad, 9dTd ili ništa da neznam kako bi ja ovdje našao fold, al opet neznam čime je onda callao flop. Moguće da je jednostavno odlučio koji god to hand bio pretvoriti ga u bluff. Vjerujem da svi igrači prije ili kasnije okrenu neki veći bluff, al moguće da se varam jer ne igram turnire. @djursan, sinisa: Neznam kako vi vidite da na turnu villain dobiva value samo od Ad. Dobiva value i od setova jer mi imamo oddse za lovit FH, a ako villain pusti turn i beta river mi ćemo vrlo vjeroajtno foldat set na ovom boardu. | |
| | | mich_bjukenon Boja
Number of posts : 607 Location : zagorje zelene Poker Site : pokerstars Karma : 21
| Subject: Re: *Official* NH sir thread 19.11.10 12:41 | |
| neznam,uzevsi u obzir da je ovo malo ozbiljniji turnir (100$BI) i da nam se radi o tournament life-u,i s obzirom da villain nije radio gluposti do sada i da mu je range iznimno uzak,bluff ili nuts,vjerovatno bi ispravnije bilo foldat (ja bi stisnuo call i upalio novi tour ) ... | |
| | | Djursan Set
Number of posts : 289 Location : Zagreb Poker Site : Live poker only Karma : 12
| Subject: Re: *Official* NH sir thread 19.11.10 13:07 | |
| - DirtyCash90s wrote:
- Nadam se bar da se fold isplatio i da si dobio neku dobru lovu.
@djursan, sinisa:
Neznam kako vi vidite da na turnu villain dobiva value samo od Ad. Dobiva value i od setova jer mi imamo oddse za lovit FH, a ako villain pusti turn i beta river mi ćemo vrlo vjeroajtno foldat set na ovom boardu. Je slažem se sa tobom ali za takav play moramo dati čovjeku izniman kredit, jer je check po meni ovdje instinktivna reakcija. Na flopu sa monsterom normalan čovjek calla, i moli boga da turn nije kara, da ne izgubi inicijalnog agresora. Da se radi o nižim karama, još onda i ima smisla, jer bi se masa ljudi zasteckala sa Q, K ili Ad, ali ovdje je limitiran izbor na Ad. Argument za nuts je iti što su obojica deep, pa je malo vjerojatno da bi išao u bluff sa jednakim stack playerom. Da kelavi ima dupla manji stack bio bi snap, ovako više ne znam što da mislim, ali užasno je teško baciti hend pod pretpostavkom da villain ima flopani str8 flush. Brijem da bi ipak callao jer treba i razmišljati da ga u ovom spotu uzmeš, otvorena su ti vrata za jebenu lovu. @kelavi, jer ti frajer pokazao kaj je imao? | |
| | | kelavi Boja
Number of posts : 494 Location : Zagreb Poker Site : pokerstars, unibet Karma : 34
| Subject: Re: *Official* NH sir thread 19.11.10 13:27 | |
| nije pokazao hand, ja sam napisao u chat svoji hand ali nije ništa kometirao. Isto tako nitko drugi nije napisao da je imao 9d ili Td, a u ovom slučaju bi netko od play-era napisao..IMO
Istina da bi imao veliki stack, cca M oko 60, ali nebi se po tome ravnao da mi je to garancija za veću lovu koja je bila od prvih 6, jer ipak je tur sa solidnim buy-inom gdje ni takav stack nije neka garancija. Nakon toga mi je M ostao oko 20 što je jako dobro za tu fazu tura tako da ako nemrem sa time do FT teško da ću i sa M= 60. U tom trenu bilo nas je još oko 100, 72 ITM. Ispao sam 17. ili 18. tak nešto... | |
| | | Brky Skala
Number of posts : 407 Location : Zagreb Poker Site : Full tilt Karma : 13
| Subject: Re: *Official* NH sir thread 19.11.10 13:47 | |
| pa ti nisi normalan | |
| | | Djursan Set
Number of posts : 289 Location : Zagreb Poker Site : Live poker only Karma : 12
| Subject: Re: *Official* NH sir thread 19.11.10 14:10 | |
| - kelavi wrote:
- nije pokazao hand, ja sam napisao u chat svoji hand ali nije ništa kometirao. Isto tako nitko drugi nije napisao da je imao 9d ili Td, a u ovom slučaju bi netko od play-era napisao..IMO
Istina da bi imao veliki stack, cca M oko 60, ali nebi se po tome ravnao da mi je to garancija za veću lovu koja je bila od prvih 6, jer ipak je tur sa solidnim buy-inom gdje ni takav stack nije neka garancija. Nakon toga mi je M ostao oko 20 što je jako dobro za tu fazu tura tako da ako nemrem sa time do FT teško da ću i sa M= 60. U tom trenu bilo nas je još oko 100, 72 ITM. Ispao sam 17. ili 18. tak nešto... Fakat imaš zapanjujuće rezultate, daj mi reci koji je trik? mislim znam da treba imati temelje u znanju, talentu itd..ali ovo je fakat čudo. Da li se radi o tome da je na višim levelima ekipa normalna i nema toliko debila? Meni su već dopizdili ovi 10-30$ leveli, ne znam kada sam zadnji put ispao na turniru da se ne radi o natkupu. Čak i flipove izbjegavam koliko je moguće da nedam ribi 50% da me uzme, nego čekam bolji spot, i onda me skreka na flopani ful. Ne znam kada sam zadnji put na mtt-u imao dobar rezultat, a kada radim review turnira ne vidim neke veće greške. Frustrirajuće, zato tebi svaka čast, doći će i mojih 5 minuta. | |
| | | BosnaPonosna Dva para
Number of posts : 84 Location : Kaštela Poker Site : GoalWin Karma : 7
| Subject: Re: *Official* NH sir thread 19.11.10 14:26 | |
| Na višim levelima su još luđi ( bar iz mog iskustva). | |
| | | kelavi Boja
Number of posts : 494 Location : Zagreb Poker Site : pokerstars, unibet Karma : 34
| Subject: Re: *Official* NH sir thread 19.11.10 14:51 | |
| - BosnaPonosna wrote:
- Na višim levelima su još luđi ( bar iz mog iskustva).
+ pogotovo ameri...ahahahah | |
| | | debakl Skala
Number of posts : 481 Location : south Poker Site : sve Karma : 29
| Subject: Re: *Official* NH sir thread 19.11.10 21:25 | |
| - Djursan wrote:
FMeni su već dopizdili ovi 10-30$ leveli ne znam gdje igraš turnire ali na starsima su na tim levelima ono većina teški tighteri i prilično se ugodno osjećam kad igram te turnire...tipa rejzaš s utg-a svi snap fold jer kao ''sigurno ima hand kad je utg rejzer'', uvik se nađe pokoji donk ali stvarno rijetko, a u kasnijoj fazi turnira već ima razlike među igračima, odma vidiš kako regulari (po sharskopu) igraju agro u završnici a ovi ''zalutali'' samo fold fold do premiuma...naravno da treba imati sreće ali ono iman osjećaj da ako nonstop igran te turnire da bih mogao računati u prosjeku 1-2 puta mjesečno final table ali naravno ko ima volje igrat te donkamente...ali prije mjesec ipo sam baš testirao tu varijantu i non stop 10dana sam igrao po 5-6 dnevno i rezultati su bili odlični...dosta itm-a, final table, top5... slažem se s kelavim i bosnom ja sam na većim limitima vidija bolesnije igre i to od teških profija...ćim je bi 50$+ igra postaje znatno teža | |
| | | debakl Skala
Number of posts : 481 Location : south Poker Site : sve Karma : 29
| Subject: Re: *Official* NH sir thread 20.11.10 0:36 | |
| on topic... ovo je primjer za nove,mlade nadobudne zvijezde pokera kako ne igrati (naravno odnosi se na villaina) mali ispravak..tek san sad vidija da je on bija na butonu, mislija sam da je oop...no, dobro onda može i nh hand sir $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Holdem 6 Players Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.comStacks:UTG taddel87 ( $53.25) UTG+1 yadoula8 ( $80.11) CO Hero ($57.05) BTN dzudija ($37.35) SB Hardmode ( $81.22) BB oooKARLooo ( $65.21) Pre-Flop: ( $0.75, 6 players) Hero is CO 2 folds, Hero raises to $1.50, dzudija raises to $5.25, 2 folds, Hero raises to $12, dzudija calls $6.75 Flop: ( $24.75, 2 players) Hero bets $13.50, dzudija goes all-in $25.35, Hero calls $11.85 Turn: ( $75.45, 2 players, 1 all-in) River: ( $75.45, 2 players, 1 all-in) Final Pot: $75.45dzudija shows Hero shows Hero wins $71.68 (net +$34.33) dzudija lost $37.35 | |
| | | ZDMitch Full house
Number of posts : 727 Location : ZD/ZG Poker Site : iPoker Network Karma : 39
| Subject: Re: *Official* NH sir thread 20.11.10 2:29 | |
| Ode si se malo tresa radi drawa, znan kako je | |
| | | Andre_787 Boja
Number of posts : 675 Location : Rijeka Poker Site : Poker stars Karma : 43
| Subject: Re: *Official* NH sir thread 20.11.10 23:13 | |
| $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Holdem PokerStars 7 Players Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.comStacks:UTG donomar007 ( $10.41) UTG+1 Mozgolom4966 ( $5.53) MP LEGIAtoMY ( $10.10) CO Hero ($10.35) BTN gernotk2 ($9.95) SB molon lawe ( $11.75) BB DrRepr ( $10) Pre-Flop: ( $0.15, 7 players) Hero is CO 3 folds, Hero raises to $0.30, gernotk2 calls $0.30, 2 foldsFlop: ( $0.75, 2 players) Hero bets $0.50, gernotk2 raises to $1.30, Hero raises to $2.70, gernotk2 goes all-in $9.65, Hero calls $6.95 Turn: ( $20.05, 2 players, 1 all-in) River: ( $20.05, 2 players, 1 all-in) Final Pot: $20.05Hero shows gernotk2 shows Hero wins $19.05 (net +$9.10) gernotk2 lost $9.95 | |
| | | Chiro23 Full house
Number of posts : 762 Location : Tiltoland Poker Site : Ongame Karma : 7
| Subject: Re: *Official* NH sir thread 21.11.10 0:13 | |
| $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Holdem PartyPoker 8 Players Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.comStacks:UTG steeg777 ( $25.70) UTG+1 LV_SHAQ_LV ($36.78) MP1 Ali_Fuuh ( $41.20) MP2 Hero ($45.32) CO maestr078 ( $8.40) BTN WriggleRoom ( $49.14) SB seckel5 ($25.10) BB Fishcal ( $25.35) Pre-Flop: ( $0.35, 8 players) Hero is MP2 1 fold, LV_SHAQ_LV raises to $1, 1 fold, Hero calls $1, 2 folds, seckel5 raises to $3.50, 1 fold, LV_SHAQ_LV calls $2.50, Hero calls $2.50 Flop: ( $10.75, 3 players) seckel5 bets $7.66, LV_SHAQ_LV calls $7.66, Hero raises to $23.07, seckel5 folds, LV_SHAQ_LV calls $15.41 Turn: ( $64.55, 2 players) LV_SHAQ_LV bets $10.21, Hero calls $10.21 River: ( $84.97, 2 players) Final Pot: $84.97LV_SHAQ_LV shows Hero shows Hero wins $81.97 (net +$45.19) LV_SHAQ_LV lost $36.78 seckel5 lost $11.16 | |
| | | M88 Set
Number of posts : 347 Location : Hrvatska Poker Site : ? Karma : 12
| Subject: Re: *Official* NH sir thread 21.11.10 12:06 | |
| $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Holdem PokerStars 8 Players Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.comStacks:Hero ($12.09) UTG+1 ( $11.30) MP1 ( $12.55) MP2 ( $6.18) CO ( $10.68) BTN ( $10.45) SB ( $11.60) BB ($10) Pre-Flop: ( $0.15, 8 players) Hero is UTG Hero raises to $0.30, 6 folds, BB calls $0.20 Flop: ( $0.65, 2 players) BB checks, Hero bets $0.40, BB raises to $1.99, Hero says "nines I guess", Hero foldsFinal Pot: $3.04BB shows three of a kind, Nines BB wins $2.97 (net +$0.68) Hero lost $0.70 Nisam znao ništa o liku jer je tek nedavno bio sjeo za stol. Ali sam vidio da igra dosta stolova istovremeno (super što se to lako vidi na PokerStarsu), a ovaj glupi masivni rejz na flopu je tako tipičan za te multi-tabling nitove kad pogode set. Znam da je mnogima tu ovo easy fold ali bezbroj puta vidim ljude kako se zastackaju u takvoj i sličnoj situaciji i onda sami sebe uvjere da je to bilo neizbježno. | |
| | | debakl Skala
Number of posts : 481 Location : south Poker Site : sve Karma : 29
| Subject: Re: *Official* NH sir thread 23.11.10 17:21 | |
| nema ništa lipša od par fisheva u potu kad imaš nuts $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Holdem 5 Players Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.comStacks:UTG Hero ($64.73) CO wiggy ( $23.35) BTN golferchick ($132.69) SB wilma46 ($14.40) BB IIoPIIIEHb ($52.75) Pre-Flop: ( $0.75, 5 players) Hero is UTG Hero raises to $1.50, 1 fold, golferchick calls $1.50, wilma46 calls $1.25, IIoPIIIEHb calls $1 Flop: ( $6, 4 players) wilma46 bets $3, 1 fold, Hero calls $3, golferchick calls $3 Turn: ( $15, 3 players) wilma46 goes all-in $9.90, Hero calls $9.90, golferchick calls $9.90 River: ( $44.70, 3 players, 1 all-in) Hero bets $22.35, golferchick calls $22.35 Final Pot: $89.40Hero shows golferchick shows wilma46 shows Hero wins $85.40 (net +$48.65) golferchick lost $36.75 wilma46 lost $14.40 IIoPIIIEHb lost $1.50 | |
| | | Drogi Jedan par
Number of posts : 48 Location : Zlatar Poker Site : PokerStars Karma : 0
| Subject: Re: *Official* NH sir thread 24.11.10 8:04 | |
| offtopic: gledam malo gore handove i na svakoj drugoj ruci piše recimo Total pot: $212 | Rake: $0.50 kak je rake tak mali ??? Ja igram na starsima pa recimo imam pot od 10$ i rake je već 0.50$ a često je pot oko 20$ i rake je 1$ cca .. Koje to stranice imaju tak mali rake ili sam ja neke profuljal dok sam cital | |
| | | DirtyCash90s Boja
Number of posts : 578 Location : Zagreb Poker Site : FTP Karma : 24
| Subject: Re: *Official* NH sir thread 24.11.10 11:50 | |
| Nemaju sigurno tako mali rake, nego vjerojatno dolazi do nekakve greške prilikom konvertanja. | |
| | | Dr.Greenthumb Boja
Number of posts : 553 Location : Dislocation Poker Site : Poker Site Karma : 58
| Subject: Re: *Official* NH sir thread 29.11.10 0:22 | |
| No Limit Holdem Tournament FullTiltPoker 2 Players Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com$30 + $1.50 Heads Up Sit & Go Stacks:SB Hero (1,480) BB meysam77 (4,520) Blinds: 40/80 Pre-Flop: ( 120, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero calls 40, meysam77 checks Flop: ( 160, 2 players) meysam77 checks, Hero checks Turn: ( 160, 2 players) meysam77 checks, Hero checks River: ( 160, 2 players) meysam77 bets 240, Hero calls 240 Final Pot: 640Hero shows King Queen high meysam77 shows Hero wins 640 (net +320) meysam77 lost 320 | |
| | | Andre_787 Boja
Number of posts : 675 Location : Rijeka Poker Site : Poker stars Karma : 43
| Subject: Re: *Official* NH sir thread 02.12.10 12:42 | |
| $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Holdem PokerStars 8 Players Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.comStacks:UTG Jjarmo ( $3.70) UTG+1 GROSSO1979 ($0.93) MP1 rioo reiser ($5.12) MP2 blauwe druif ( $3.67) CO Llewella ( $5) BTN aKind0fMagic ($5) SB Hero ($5) BB schadz ( $3.73) Pre-Flop: ( $0.07, 8 players) Hero is SB 1 fold, GROSSO1979 calls $0.05, rioo reiser calls $0.05, 2 folds, aKind0fMagic raises to $0.15, Hero raises to $0.50, 1 fold, GROSSO1979 calls $0.45, rioo reiser folds, aKind0fMagic calls $0.35 Flop: ( $1.60, 3 players) Hero bets $1, GROSSO1979 calls $0.43, aKind0fMagic calls $1 Turn: ( $4.03, 3 players) Hero bets $2.75, aKind0fMagic calls $2.75 River: ( $9.53, 3 players) Hero bets $0.75, aKind0fMagic calls $0.75 Final Pot: $11.03Hero shows GROSSO1979 shows aKind0fMagic shows Hero wins $10.51 (net +$5.51) GROSSO1979 lost $0.93 rioo reiser lost $0.05 aKind0fMagic lost $5 aKind0fMagic: mother***er | |
| | | Dr.Greenthumb Boja
Number of posts : 553 Location : Dislocation Poker Site : Poker Site Karma : 58
| Subject: Re: *Official* NH sir thread 06.12.10 20:17 | |
| $0.20/$0.40 No Limit Holdem Prima 4 Players Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.comStacks:CO tavo12 ( $42.96) BTN maciejozo ($20.03) SB cescofran ($31.52) BB Hero ($73.45) Pre-Flop: ( $0.60, 4 players) Hero is BB 1 fold, maciejozo calls $0.40, cescofran calls $0.40, Hero checks Flop: ( $1.20, 3 players) cescofran bets $1.20, Hero calls $1.20, maciejozo calls $1.20 Turn: ( $4.80, 3 players) cescofran checks, Hero bets $2.80, maciejozo calls $2.80, cescofran foldsRiver: ( $10.40, 2 players) Hero goes all-in $69.05, maciejozo goes all-in $15.63Final Pot: $95.08 Hero collects $39.58 (net -$33.87) cescofran lost $1.60 maciejozo lost $20.03 Ne prikazuje vise protivnikovu ruku na showdownu na primi kad convertam,neznam zakaj,ugl. imao je nesto... In b4 rejz flop,jaci bet na turnu | |
| | | Andre_787 Boja
Number of posts : 675 Location : Rijeka Poker Site : Poker stars Karma : 43
| Subject: Re: *Official* NH sir thread 06.12.10 23:01 | |
| ^ nh sir €0.02/€0.05 No Limit Holdem PokerStars 9 Players Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.comStacks:UTG El Puppyto ( €2) UTG+1 chipking789 ( €9.81) MP1 Hero (€7.64) MP2 x0nta_CRNG (€5.43) MP3 Distinguidos ( €2.84) CO ultramus ( €4.93) BTN Dämel44 ( €9.60) SB Ă�â$ her (€2.56) BB kondradt ( €5) Pre-Flop: ( €0.07, 9 players) Hero is MP1 2 folds, Hero raises to €0.20, x0nta_CRNG calls €0.20, 3 folds, Ă�â$ her calls €0.18, 1 foldFlop: ( €0.65, 3 players) Ă�â$ her checks, Hero checks, x0nta_CRNG bets €0.40, Ă�â$ her calls €0.40, Hero calls €0.40 Turn: ( €1.85, 3 players) Ă�â$ her checks, Hero checks, x0nta_CRNG bets €0.95, Ă�â$ her goes all-in €1.96, Hero folds, x0nta_CRNG calls €1.01 River: ( €5.77, 2 players, 1 all-in) Final Pot: €5.77Ă�â$ her shows two pair, Queens and Fives x0nta_CRNG shows a pair of Queens Ă�â$ her wins €5.49 (net +€2.93) Hero lost €0.60 x0nta_CRNG lost €2.56 wut? | |
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