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PostSubject: 400nl - 3 handa   400nl - 3 handa Empty10.05.10 9:18

evo 3 handa vs jednog random loseg igraca

u biti nisu nesto teski spotovi, al me zanima drugo misljenje

dakle, prvi hand je prakticki pocetak meca, lik se pokazao kao dosta straightforward, dakle nije imao nikakav fensiplej sindrom, te je c/f svaki put kada nije connectao

igrao je 90% iz sb i iz bb i 3b 23%

dakle ovdje nemam readova nekih posebnih, osim toga da me je vec par puta c/r flop gdje sam ja foldao


Full Tilt Poker $2/$4 No Limit Hold'em - 2 players - View hand 685933
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

BB: $439.50
Hero (BTN/SB): $468.00

Pre Flop: ($6.00) Hero is BTN/SB with A 400nl - 3 handa 901737 A 400nl - 3 handa 948558
Hero raises to $12, BB calls $8

Flop: ($24.00) 8 400nl - 3 handa 825912 8 400nl - 3 handa 901737 7 400nl - 3 handa 825912 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $16, BB raises to $72, Hero..?


ovdje sam vec imao neke tellove o njegovom bet sizingu, dakle nisam bas 100% siguran, ali kada c/r psb onda je to jak made hand, a kada c/r manje, tj neki random broj to je u glavnom draw (?), opet kazem, nije sigurno, ali vrlo vjerojatna pretpostavka

Full Tilt Poker $2/$4 No Limit Hold'em - 2 players - View hand 685938
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

BB: $865.00
Hero (BTN/SB): $416.50

Pre Flop: ($6.00) Hero is BTN/SB with 6 400nl - 3 handa 901737 T 400nl - 3 handa 901737
Hero raises to $12, BB calls $8

Flop: ($24.00) 4 400nl - 3 handa 825912 5 400nl - 3 handa 825912 T 400nl - 3 handa 47691 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $16, BB raises to $72, Hero calls $56

Turn: ($168.00) K 400nl - 3 handa 901737 (2 players)
BB bets $781 all in, Hero requests TIME..



ovdje sam vec malo sigurniji u stvari napisane za prosli hand, ali me totalno zbunio njegov turn check, kako bi odigrali flop/turn?


Full Tilt Poker $2/$4 No Limit Hold'em - 2 players - View hand 685941
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

BB: $1352.75
Hero (BTN/SB): $433.50

Pre Flop: ($6.00) Hero is BTN/SB with 7 400nl - 3 handa 47691 7 400nl - 3 handa 825912
Hero raises to $12, BB calls $8

Flop: ($24.00) T 400nl - 3 handa 948558 7 400nl - 3 handa 901737 A 400nl - 3 handa 948558 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $16, BB raises to $48, Hero calls $32

Turn: ($120.00) 8 400nl - 3 handa 948558 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero






ovaj hand je samo prikaz o bet sizinig tellu


Full Tilt Poker $2/$4 No Limit Hold'em - 2 players - View hand 685943
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

BB: $1663.75
Hero (BTN/SB): $531.00

Pre Flop: ($6.00) Hero is BTN/SB with 2 400nl - 3 handa 825912 J 400nl - 3 handa 825912
Hero raises to $12, BB calls $8

Flop: ($24.00) 8 400nl - 3 handa 825912 T 400nl - 3 handa 825912 3 400nl - 3 handa 825912 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $16, BB raises to $48, Hero requests TIME, Hero raises to $128, BB calls $80

Turn: ($280.00) 7 400nl - 3 handa 825912 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: ($280.00) A 400nl - 3 handa 47691 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Final Pot: $280.00
BB shows K 400nl - 3 handa 825912 6 400nl - 3 handa 901737 (a flush, King high)
Hero shows 2 400nl - 3 handa 825912 J 400nl - 3 handa 825912 (a flush, Jack high)
BB wins $279.50
(Rake: $0.50)
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PostSubject: Re: 400nl - 3 handa   400nl - 3 handa Empty11.05.10 8:59

nidje nikog? Sad

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PostSubject: Re: 400nl - 3 handa   400nl - 3 handa Empty11.05.10 10:01

Nije mi jasno što misliš pod time kad kažeš da je reg jer vidim da radi suludo velike CR na flopu što je dosta veliki pokazatelj da se radi o velikoj ribetini koja nezna što radi. Ovakav bet sizing je tragičan i neisplativ.

1)Prvu ruku bi mu platio flop i ovisno o karti na turnu platio/bacio. Ne biu nikada bacio dva asa na flopu, a s druge strane ukoliko 3 betaš flop ćeš dobiti ili ship ili fold te nećeš lako vidjeti kako igra dalje a čini mi se da ovaj play često ponavlja i treba pod hitno vidjeti s čime.

2) drugu ruku bi mu bacio na turnu jer nema puno ruku koje mozemo beatati a da je ovako odigrao, jedino možda neki jaki combo draw. Opet radi veliki bet size što mu je očito standardan play no nisam baš siguran da se tu radi o jakom made handu

3) ovdje je napravio manji CR i mislim da bi nam bilo pametnije 3 betati flop, imaš set na vrlo opasnom boardu koji se na turnu moze lako pokvariti i otežati ti odluku. Također si rekao da misliš da kada radi normalan size raise ima draw tako da mu treba naplatiti ruku, a i ubaciti koji 3 bet na flopu kao obranu od njegovih čestih velikih check raisova!

Općenito nisam siguran u to što kažeš da je jaki CR na flopu( govorim generalno o njegovoj igri) made hand pošto u četvrtoj ruci nije tako overbetao flop u situaciji kada je flopao boju koja nije nuts i gdje ga lako možeš outdrawati.

btw. u četvrtoj ruci betaj river za value,


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PostSubject: Re: 400nl - 3 handa   400nl - 3 handa Empty11.05.10 10:21

nisam rekao da je reg, mislim, nigdje ne pise

od cega cemo dobit value u zadnjem handu?
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PostSubject: Re: 400nl - 3 handa   400nl - 3 handa Empty11.05.10 13:26

LOL, zabrijao sam da piše reg player, a ne random Wink

Imamo second nuts i na riveru se slažem da nećemo dobiti call od mnogo karata, ali s druge strane ukoliko se nađemo u poziciji da u ovakvim situacijama na riveru betamo samo nuts flush ili zrak nepotrebno polariziramo range jer je protivnik ipak dovoljno loš da nas isplati s manjom bojom koju je ovako retardirano odigrao.

Jasno mi je da je njegov play čestomože biti Ace high flush ili karta koja nam neće platiti, ali opet nebi izržao pošto vidim da je protivnik sklon spewu i rađenju sranja s polukartama.

EDIT: Ma zapravo kada malo bolje razmislim on ovdje stavrno ne smije imati ace high flush(osim možda flopanog) jer rijetko ko CR s takvim drawom i onda na 3 bet samo plati bez pozicije jer ej to paljenje love....


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PostSubject: Re: 400nl - 3 handa   400nl - 3 handa Empty11.05.10 13:30

DisD,ti si nešto gadno zabrijao. Kakav 2nd nuts?
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PostSubject: Re: 400nl - 3 handa   400nl - 3 handa Empty11.05.10 14:05

Chiro23 wrote:
DisD,ti si nešto gadno zabrijao. Kakav 2nd nuts?

Mislim da se referira na četvrtu ruku u kojoj ima king high boju ili sam ja nešto zabrijao?
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PostSubject: Re: 400nl - 3 handa   400nl - 3 handa Empty11.05.10 14:54

hero ima Jd2d
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PostSubject: Re: 400nl - 3 handa   400nl - 3 handa Empty11.05.10 15:25

knez wrote:
hero ima Jd2d


Smile

Isprike, nisam dobro vidio ruku, ovdje je sve totalno standardno pošto stvarno nemožemo dobiti call od slabije karte;)

Mozda bi nam mogao poslati njegov nick, čisto ako naletim na njega da mu se sjednem za 6 stolova ,) jer ovo je epska riba
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