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PostSubject: 100NL: Donk leads in multi-way pots   100NL: Donk leads in multi-way pots Empty18.10.09 22:25

Is this std?

$0.5/$1 No Limit Holdem
6 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Hero ($100)
UTG+1 OMGkatyperry ($113.70)
CO Adler1980 ($118.76)
BTN Comperius007 ($84.51)
SB asselkakz ($103.20)
BB Wasco_6 ($94.03)

Pre-Flop: ($1.50, 6 players) Hero is UTG A 100NL: Donk leads in multi-way pots 901737 4 100NL: Donk leads in multi-way pots 901737
Hero raises to $4, 2 folds, Comperius007 calls $4, asselkakz calls $3.50, 1 fold

Flop: K 100NL: Donk leads in multi-way pots 948558 4 100NL: Donk leads in multi-way pots 47691 10 100NL: Donk leads in multi-way pots 901737 ($13, 3 players)
asselkakz bets $6, Hero raises to $18, Comperius007 calls $18, asselkakz folds

Turn: 7 100NL: Donk leads in multi-way pots 901737 ($55, 2 players)
Hero checks, Comperius007 bets $17, Hero calls $17

River: 5 100NL: Donk leads in multi-way pots 47691 ($89, 2 players)
Hero checks, Comperius007 bets $26, Hero folds

Final Pot: $115

Comperius007 wins $111.50 (net +$46.50)

asselkakz lost $10
Hero lost $39
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PostSubject: Re: 100NL: Donk leads in multi-way pots   100NL: Donk leads in multi-way pots Empty19.10.09 2:54

nope jam the turn.
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PostSubject: Re: 100NL: Donk leads in multi-way pots   100NL: Donk leads in multi-way pots Empty19.10.09 2:58

yeah flop raise is the standard I would usually be raising bottom pair with the backdoor flush on most boards whether I am the pfr or not.
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PostSubject: Re: 100NL: Donk leads in multi-way pots   100NL: Donk leads in multi-way pots Empty19.10.09 9:54

I like you flop raise so its is very good spot to jam turn with lots of outs and also very high folding equity!
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PostSubject: Re: 100NL: Donk leads in multi-way pots   100NL: Donk leads in multi-way pots Empty19.10.09 10:36

I'd like to raise the turn just to see his reaction. if you get called, then check-fold if flush doesnt come up. He might be folding if he called with AT. or QT
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PostSubject: Re: 100NL: Donk leads in multi-way pots   100NL: Donk leads in multi-way pots Empty19.10.09 11:41

Does anyone notice his stack size? ~psb left on turn
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PostSubject: Re: 100NL: Donk leads in multi-way pots   100NL: Donk leads in multi-way pots Empty19.10.09 15:57

I think your decision must be based mainly on your estimation of Comperius.

Jamming would be ok if he is semi donk to donk I think. If he is a decent player he shouldnt be coldcalling that flop with the hands he is ready to fold on turn, like second or bottom pair or weak king. Especially with that stacksize.

I think its a bad gamplan to call 18, and be ready to fold if the third player 3bets (reraises) flop, or you jam the turn, because that will happen to often, and thats why I think it takes semidonk to play like that.

We must ask what range on that flop is small blind leading into two players. What range is apropriate for us to raise to 18, and then estimate what hands Comperius can have when calling.

Only hand he can sometimes play like that, and fold the turn is QJ maybe.

Still jamming gives you image, balances your lines, you have a lots of outs, some folding equity, and may be the right move with a small -EV also.
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