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PostSubject: Turn Spot NL$200   Turn Spot NL$200 Empty12.02.10 10:26

Villain is 25/21 with a 14% 3-bet over 300 hands.

$1/$2 No Limit Holdem
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Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
Hero ($224)
UTG+1 ($261.35)
CO ($297.40)
BTN ($363.80)
SB ($265)
BB ($200)

Pre-Flop: ($3, 6 players) Hero is UTG Turn Spot NL$200 367222 Turn Spot NL$200 674367
Hero raises to $7, UTG+1 calls $7, 1 fold, BTN calls $7, 1 fold, BB calls $5

Flop: Turn Spot NL$200 6154 Turn Spot NL$200 787389 Turn Spot NL$200 16726 ($29, 4 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $22, UTG+1 calls $22, 1 fold, BB folds

Turn: Turn Spot NL$200 485926 ($73, 2 players)

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PostSubject: Re: Turn Spot NL$200   Turn Spot NL$200 Empty12.02.10 12:12

his line is pretty weird.
With a so high 3bet we can imagine he would have raise preflop JJ/TT, he would have fold JTo, QKo, Q9s and he would have raise all of these mentioned hands on flop (+ 55). Anyway, with 2 players after him, he coukld be tempted to flatcall a set or a huge draw like 89 of hearts, which is, i think, a big greedy mistake.

we dont know anything about his behavior postflop, about reads you could have on him. Depending of that, and adding my first consideration about his range, i could bet/call bet/fold c/raise this turn. You are OOp, you raised utg, you cbet in a 4way pot, if the guy isnt stupid, he wont bluff you and wont raise with a hand who cant beat Aces for exemple. So, i think he would take the free card if you check, that's why i bet/fold in this specific situation. Actually i bet/fold/hate life if you want my whole line. Very Happy

what do u think about?
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PostSubject: Re: Turn Spot NL$200   Turn Spot NL$200 Empty19.02.10 9:47

The problem is whether or not he flats a set on the flop and whether or not he's capable of jamming draws on the turn when it doesn't look like I'm bet folding. He needs to have a set a lot more often than a draw so even just a few draws make it a call, and obv if he can ever have AJ I'm golden but I think that's unlikely.

I did bet fold, but think that might be wrong since I have the gutter too. I'm not sure what is right Sad
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PostSubject: Re: Turn Spot NL$200   Turn Spot NL$200 Empty19.02.10 10:58

This is such a tough spot if you dont have any reads on villain, but without any decent read i like betting some 70% of the time, and checking the rest. I know that with checking you give him free cards but that has some value when he riverbluffs missed draws, you have great ability to VB when he checks, and you balance your range because he wont expect you to check overpairs on that turn.

And against random reg i like your bet fold, i dont see so much turn CR with draws
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