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    PostSubject: perina zivotna prica   perina zivotna prica Empty03.04.10 15:06

    evo,prosla je i moja prva godina na pokerica.net forumu i portalu a da se jos nisam predstavio pa cu to uciniti sada
    mnogi sa podrjucja zagreba me vec poznaju sa live igre i znaju da sam luđak za stolom, al za one koj me neznaju evo par natuknica o mome zivotu
    zovem se pero, imam 22 godine, zivim u zagrebu i poker igram od svoje 17 godine zivota. vecinom sam igrao live poker, tu i tamo je bilo izleta na netu.
    eto toliko o meni, a sada razlog zasto zapocinjem pisati dnevnik..
    odlucio sam se poceti igrati zaozbiljno poker online i to od najmanjih levela(NL2) i naredovati postepeno koliko mi roll bude dopustao. krenuo sam sa 40$ dolara na starsu13.03.2010. na nl2te otisao na more u omis odmorit tijelo i dusu i pritom malo igrati koliko mi vrijeme bude dopustalo.

    ovdje cu pisati ne samo o pokeru nego i mom zivotu ( citaj izlascima i divljanjima)

    pa krenimo.....
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    PostSubject: Re: perina zivotna prica   perina zivotna prica Empty03.04.10 15:17

    prvo o pokeru
    trenutacan roll na starsu nakon 40k ruku je 111$.evo i graf
    https://2img.net/r/ihimizer/img192/7076/grafmb.png
    plan je da kada dodem do 130$ prelazim postepeno na NL5
    necu previse postat ruke koje sam odigrao, samo ce se nac tu i tamo neka zanimljiva

    sad o odlasku na more...
    tu sam vec 4 tjedna i ako neznate strastveni sam ljubitelj punk i HC koncerata kako u lijepoj nasoj tako i u inozemstvu
    vilim alkohol i zene, sta ces ipak sam musko
    otkako sam u omisu skoro svaka vecer je bila luda i nezaboravna pa je tako i svako jutro na kavi svaka prica pocinjala sa "ajme kako sam se sinoc napio".......

    i da, plan mi je igrat sto visete cu nakon svakog sessiona postat graf kako mi ide, te cu kad se vratim u zg izvjestavat vas kako je bilo na live igri
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    PostSubject: Re: perina zivotna prica   perina zivotna prica Empty03.04.10 16:03

    pero_zg wrote:

    otkako sam u omisu skoro svaka vecer je bila luda i nezaboravna

    prvo pozdrav a drugo zar ima išta ''života'' u omišu u ovo doba godine...pa ni ljeti u tom malom lijepom mjestu nije nešto za izlaske a tek sada? Smile
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    PostSubject: Re: perina zivotna prica   perina zivotna prica Empty03.04.10 16:04

    lijep pozdrav..i sretno s online igrom Wink
    zasto bas stars?? zasto ne recimo FT gdje mislim da ima vise cash akcije pogotovo na vecim limitima??
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    PostSubject: Re: perina zivotna prica   perina zivotna prica Empty03.04.10 16:12

    debakl wrote:
    pero_zg wrote:

    otkako sam u omisu skoro svaka vecer je bila luda i nezaboravna

    prvo pozdrav a drugo zar ima išta ''života'' u omišu u ovo doba godine...pa ni ljeti u tom malom lijepom mjestu nije nešto za izlaske a tek sada? Smile
    iama ovdje baku i dedu takoda ljetujem u omisu otkako znam za sebe i imam poprilicno veliku ekipu ovdjei uvjek kad izađes van sa domacima neces ti biti dosadno, a svaki dan ovdje je kao subota u zagrebu
    al sto se tice nekih javnoh okupljanja, pritom mislim na klubove ili kafice sa nekim nocnim zivotom, nema. omis je mali i mirni gradic na obali 25km juzno od splita
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    PostSubject: Re: perina zivotna prica   perina zivotna prica Empty03.04.10 16:14

    DonkeyRi wrote:
    lijep pozdrav..i sretno s online igrom Wink
    zasto bas stars?? zasto ne recimo FT gdje mislim da ima vise cash akcije pogotovo na vecim limitima??
    zato sto igram nl2 i PS ima bolje promocije za microstakes igrace,manji rake i vise losih igraca

    a evo ti jedan clanak koj to i potvrđuje
    Out of curiosity I sat down this afternoon to compare these two sites. I was somewhat surprised at the results. I've taken almost everything into account including rakeback, FPP's, and bonuses. I did this because I wanted to see how the two sites measured up if you ignore the fact that at PokerStars, rake isn't taken until the pot reaches $1. At FTP rake is taken as soon as the pot reaches $0.15. Stars only takes $0.05 for every FULL dollar that is in the pot, while FTP takes $0.01 for every FULL $0.15 in the pot. This obviously saves on rake paid when playing in the micros ($2NL-$10NL). However, with that thought aside, here are my findings.

    To penalize both poker rooms equally, I decided to calculate everything as if every pot hit exactly $3. At PS the rake is going to be $0.15. At FTP the rake is going to be $0.20. This hits both of their maximum % of rake taken from a pot. For PS you would earn 0.1 VPP's for every $3 pot that occurs when you are playing 9-handed. You would receive 0.1375 for every $3 pot that occurs in 6-handed play. At FTP, you would receive 0.2 FPP's for ever $0.20 pot during non-happy hour times, and 0.4 points during happy hour times. Here is where it starts getting a bit tricky, but I decided to figure up what it would cost to hit the 750VPP mark on PS. I did this because of two reasons. The first being that PS gives a $10 cash bonus to you when you hit 750 VPP's and the second being that silver star status also occurs at 750 VPP's (if obtained in a calendar month).

    The next set of computations contain an assumption. This is that every player at the table pays the equal amount of rake. If you play a lot tighter, the results will be affected and if you play a lot looser the results will be affected, but I had to go with an assumption somewhere, so I just went with it.

    So this gives us $125 in paid rake if we are playing 9 handed at stars, and $136.36 in paid rake if we are playing 6-handed in order to obtain 750 VPP's. Now if we play the equivalent number of $3 pots on FTP, we've paid $166.66 in rake for 9 handed, and $181.82 for 6-handed. Now we also get rakeback which brings the total down to $121.66 and $132.73. At stars though we have the option to spend 1 FPP to get our $10 cash bonus, so now we are left with $115 paid in rake and $126.36 after we apply the bonus.

    However what about the points situation? At pokerstars we have 749 points left. At FTP we have earned 1499.94 in 9 handed or 1090.908 in 6-handed if we never played during happy hour. However, let's assume we always play during happy hour and only during happy hour. We now have 2999.88 points for 9 handed or 2181.82 points for 6-handed. But how much are these points worth?

    After searching through various options on PokerStars, the value of a single point ranged from $0.0114 to $0.017. The value of a point on FTP I found in the $26 satellite tournaments to be $0.0048, but FTP says the value of their point is $0.005 (as this is the amount deducted from your gross rake). So now we spend our points either on bonuses, tournament entries or goods and take the value out of our paid rake. At pokerstars we can say the value of our points ranges from $8.54-$12.73. At FTP the value of our points (if we ONLY played during Happy Hour, which is rarely the case) come to $15 and $10.91 depending on full ring vs 6-max. So figuring in the gross rake reduction, we lose $4.05 of value for full ring or $2.95 of value for 6-max after redeeming our points.

    This brings us to a grand total of the following paid rakes:

    Pokerstars Full Ring = $106.46
    Pokerstars 6-max = $117.82

    FullTiltPoker Full Ring = $110.71
    FullTiltPoker 6-max = $124.77


    So even without the consideration of how drastically the way rake is taken affects the micro players, PS comes out ahead. I realize I didn't figure in Iron Man, but at the micros that's really hard to obtain. Additionally, if someone is playing enough to make Iron Man at the micros, they can also reach Silver Star status prior to when they would be hitting Iron Man (in terms of rake paid). Silver Star gives a VPP multiplier of 1.5x to get the FPP's, which would then be getting you value of $12.81-$19.10 off your FPP's vs the $8.54-$12.73. So you start getting more value as well, and as you move up the Stellar Rewards Program, at one point you get $50 for accumulating an additonal 1,000 VPP's, so that bonus even starts increasing your "rakeback" %.

    Now when you consider how the rake is taken, it's a clear choice that for micro players, PokerStars offers the better value. You don't have to pay for a hand until the pot reaches $1. With average pot sizes below $1, you can see that a lot of times, it's free. At FTP, if you are playing $0.02/$0.05 and 2 people limp (including SB) and BB checks, you get nailed with $0.01 in rake for that $0.15 pot. This also comes into play every interval difference. Say a pot goes over $1 at PokerStars, until it hits that $2 mark, you are playing for just that first $0.05 in rake.

    I'm not really sure just how much the above scenario saves the micro players money at PokerStars but again, with average pot sizes below $1, I would imagine it's quite a bit.
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    PostSubject: Re: perina zivotna prica   perina zivotna prica Empty03.04.10 18:43

    Pero,drago mi je da si počeo pisati dnevnik i da više nećeš imati onih suludih izleta na PLO cash Razz,te da ćeš sagraditi solidan roll i postati winning player,jer znam da to možeš.
    Također,kad budeš na povratku u Zagreb,navrati u Vodice da popijemo pivu,nismo se dugo vidjeli. Wink




    P.S. E da,imaš link na ovaj članak?
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    PostSubject: Re: perina zivotna prica   perina zivotna prica Empty03.04.10 19:29

    Chiro23 wrote:
    Pero,drago mi je da si počeo pisati dnevnik i da više nećeš imati onih suludih izleta na PLO cash Razz,te da ćeš sagraditi solidan roll i postati winning player,jer znam da to možeš.
    Također,kad budeš na povratku u Zagreb,navrati u Vodice da popijemo pivu,nismo se dugo vidjeli. Wink




    P.S. E da,imaš link na ovaj članak?

    za vodice bi se cak mogli dogovorit
    a sto se tice clanka, mislim da se krsi sa pravilima foruma da ga objaljujem putem linka zato sam ga samo copy/paste

    a sto se tice omaha izleta......njih ce uvjek biti
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    PostSubject: Re: perina zivotna prica   perina zivotna prica Empty03.04.10 21:39

    Ovom izracunu ti fali poker acadamey koji ti nudi bodove ako ispunjavas zadatke.

    Mislim da bi ih an cashu mogo natuc d 15 000 al moras igrat i full ring.

    Edit : evo izracunah mozes skupit 34 000 full tilt bodova s igranjem casha,

    s 20 000 uzmes bonus od 100$
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    PostSubject: Re: perina zivotna prica   perina zivotna prica Empty03.04.10 21:55

    shteva wrote:
    Ovom izracunu ti fali poker acadamey koji ti nudi bodove ako ispunjavas zadatke.

    Mislim da bi ih an cashu mogo natuc d 15 000 al moras igrat i full ring.

    Edit : evo izracunah mozes skupit 34 000 full tilt bodova s igranjem casha,

    s 20 000 uzmes bonus od 100$

    kaj je poker acadamey?
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    PostSubject: Re: perina zivotna prica   perina zivotna prica Empty03.04.10 21:57

    gotov vecerasnji kratki session i sad idem van vidit kakav alkohol se nudi.....
    plus 4$. evo i graf
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    PostSubject: Re: perina zivotna prica   perina zivotna prica Empty03.04.10 22:02

    zaboravih napisati da mi mozete slati pitanja u svezi svega zivog i nezivog osim bracnih ponuda, tu prihvacam samo jednu a to je od moje najdraze pokerasice željke aka cookie
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    PostSubject: Re: perina zivotna prica   perina zivotna prica Empty03.04.10 22:07

    pero_zg wrote:


    kaj je poker acadamey?

    http://academy.fulltiltpoker.com

    Izaberes si jedan "izazov" i onda rjesavas zadacice , kad rjesis sve dobis odredjen broj bodova , npr :

    http://academy.fulltiltpoker.com/challenges/video/10/sizing-up-opponents

    500 bodova, izazov mozes zavrsit 10 puta rjesavata dakle max 5000 bodova ovdje .

    #

    Win a pot pre-flop by re-raising without a pocket pair or an ace in your hand.
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    Win a pot by betting on two streets (the flop and turn) with no pair.
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    Win a pot by calling a bet on the flop with no pair, then betting the turn.
    (1 part task)
    nnot contain a pocket pair.

    #

    Fold top pair or better on the flop or turn to an opponent who bets into you.
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    The Pro Play

    Play 4 sessions of NLHE that are 6-handed or greater. In each session win 5 pots. Your net profit in each of the hands must be at least 8 big blinds.

    Drugi i treci zadatak su ovdje malo tricky posto znamo kakvi su igraci na NL2 pa treba malo pazit da nebi popusili vise nego ti bodovi vrijede...
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    PostSubject: Re: perina zivotna prica   perina zivotna prica Empty03.04.10 23:07

    pero..cim se ti bavis u zivotu? Smile
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    PostSubject: Re: perina zivotna prica   perina zivotna prica Empty03.04.10 23:39

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    pero..cim se ti bavis u zivotu? Smile
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    PostSubject: Re: perina zivotna prica   perina zivotna prica Empty04.04.10 1:03

    eSco wrote:
    zamorano11 wrote:
    pero..cim se ti bavis u zivotu? Smile
    Very Happy

    Razz ae... ima 22 godine, zivi u zg a vec duze vrime odmara u omisu.

    igra nl2, tako da poker kao izvor financija otpada. ne spominje nigdi ni da studira ni da radi pa me eto interesiralo Very Happy
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    PostSubject: Re: perina zivotna prica   perina zivotna prica Empty04.04.10 7:44

    Odličan dnevnik, pratit ću ga sa zanimanjem pogotovo zato što imamo slične ciljeve i počeli smo praktički u isto vrijeme... keep up the good work Smile
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    PostSubject: Re: perina zivotna prica   perina zivotna prica Empty04.04.10 9:59

    Dobar početak dnevnika, vidim da će biti zanjimljivo u budućnosti!
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    PostSubject: Re: perina zivotna prica   perina zivotna prica Empty04.04.10 11:00

    zamorano11 wrote:
    pero..cim se ti bavis u zivotu? Smile

    svime i svacime, u biti sam honorarac u film/TV industriji. jako puno ljudi cijeni moje sposobnosti rada sa kamerom,rasvjetom, pa cak i tonom makar sam 100% gluh na jedno uho.....
    a i dosta imam winingsa na live pokeru sta sam si spremo zadnje 2 i pol godine
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    eSco wrote:
    zamorano11 wrote:
    pero..cim se ti bavis u zivotu? Smile
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    a ti esco ovakve komentare molim te nemoj ostavljati u mom dnevniku
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    PostSubject: Re: perina zivotna prica   perina zivotna prica Empty04.04.10 11:03

    Beki89 wrote:
    Odličan dnevnik, pratit ću ga sa zanimanjem pogotovo zato što imamo slične ciljeve i počeli smo praktički u isto vrijeme... keep up the good work Smile

    vec smo pricali o igri i dalje mi mozes postavljati pitanja u vezi igre i sa zadovoljstvom cu ti pomoci


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    Dobar početak dnevnika, vidim da će biti zanjimljivo u budućnosti!


    hvala i ja se nadam da cete uzivati
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    PostSubject: Re: perina zivotna prica   perina zivotna prica Empty04.04.10 11:12

    pero_zg wrote:
    eSco wrote:
    zamorano11 wrote:
    pero..cim se ti bavis u zivotu? Smile
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    a ti esco ovakve komentare molim te nemoj ostavljati u mom dnevniku

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    PostSubject: Re: perina zivotna prica   perina zivotna prica Empty04.04.10 11:52

    za pocetak sretan uskrs svim forumasima i njihovim obiteljima
    krenut cu od sinocnjeg izlaska

    sinoc je bilo ludo u omisu, nikad u zivotu nisam vidio tako nakrcan grad ljudima. ja sam se zaputio u nocni zivot tek oko ponoci jer ne volim gledat klince u birtijama koj glume nekaj kaj nisu,a takvih je u omisu previse.
    prva postaja je bila u bircu u kojem uvjek i pocinjemo. butelja vina i litra vode za pocetak. sada mi se neda opisivat cijeli izlazak, ali samo da se zna da smo zavrsili oko 4 ujutro kod mene na boci jhonnya šetača.


    sada sam taman zavrsio jedan kratki session koj je prosao puno bolje od ocekivanog. igrao sam uzasno tight 10/6 i bio u plusu10$, evo i graf da to potvrdi

    https://2img.net/r/ihimizer/img682/9738/grafo.png

    tako da mi sada fali jos samo 5$ da krene kako sam planirao na lagani prelazak na NL5
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    PostSubject: Re: perina zivotna prica   perina zivotna prica Empty04.04.10 13:27

    kolko to stolova igras? 6max il full ring?


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    PostSubject: Re: perina zivotna prica   perina zivotna prica Empty04.04.10 13:27

    pero_zg wrote:
    za pocetak sretan uskrs svim forumasima i njihovim obiteljima
    krenut cu od sinocnjeg izlaska

    sinoc je bilo ludo u omisu, nikad u zivotu nisam vidio tako nakrcan grad ljudima. ja sam se zaputio u nocni zivot tek oko ponoci jer ne volim gledat klince u birtijama koj glume nekaj kaj nisu,a takvih je u omisu previse.
    prva postaja je bila u bircu u kojem uvjek i pocinjemo. butelja vina i litra vode za pocetak. sada mi se neda opisivat cijeli izlazak, ali samo da se zna da smo zavrsili oko 4 ujutro kod mene na boci jhonnya šetača.


    sada sam taman zavrsio jedan kratki session koj je prosao puno bolje od ocekivanog. igrao sam uzasno tight 10/6 i bio u plusu10$, evo i graf da to potvrdi

    https://2img.net/r/ihimizer/img682/9738/grafo.png

    tako da mi sada fali jos samo 5$ da krene kako sam planirao na lagani prelazak na NL5

    Ugodno, samo tako naprijed!
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