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sinisaT5 Tris
Number of posts : 161 Location : Zagreb Poker Site : Pokerstars Karma : 5
| Subject: Boža zvani pub 05.02.11 0:26 | |
| Za početak https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbmfDMQqGPo Dzaba vam novci moji sinovci, dzaba vam bilo dobre volje I pogledi cvrsti i lepljivi prsti, ja ipak varam malo bolje E, pa da... Reko, da i ja otvorim neki dnevnik, stavljam handove i mjesečne izvještaje, koliko mi obveze to dopuste. Zapravo, da budem iskren, dnevnik će biti ispušni ventil za sve ruke koje sam izgubio, iako se nadam da ću se uglavnom hvaliti pobjedničkim handovima i velikim potovima. (Call 3bet je zbog Josconta) $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Holdem OnGame 4 Players Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.comStacks:CO Hero ($14.26) BTN Jocsont ($25.76) SB artia79 ($10.38) BB vkand ( $15.56) Pre-Flop: ( $0.15, 4 players) Hero is CO Hero raises to $0.40, Jocsont calls $0.40, artia79 raises to $1.70, 1 fold, Hero calls $1.30, Jocsont calls $1.30 Flop: ( $5.20, 3 players) artia79 bets $8.68, Hero calls $8.68, Jocsont foldsTurn: ( $22.56, 2 players) River: ( $22.56, 2 players) Final Pot: $22.56artia79 shows Hero shows Hero wins $21.44 (net +$11.06) artia79 lost $10.38 Jocsont lost $1.70 (ne znam zašto se njegova ruka ne vidi) $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Holdem OnGame 4 Players Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.comStacks:CO Druce1 ($4.65) BTN Hero ($13.85) SB Jonas061989 ( $4.84) BB Karrask ($10.23) Pre-Flop: ( $0.15, 4 players) Hero is BTN Druce1 calls $0.10, Hero raises to $0.45, 1 fold, Karrask calls $0.35, Druce1 foldsFlop: ( $1.05, 2 players) Karrask checks, Hero bets $0.80, Karrask calls $0.80 Turn: ( $2.65, 2 players) Karrask checks, Hero bets $2, Karrask calls $2 River: ( $6.65, 2 players) Karrask checks, Hero bets $7, Karrask calls $6.98 Final Pot: $20.63Hero shows Hero wins $19.60 (net +$9.35) Karrask lost $10.23 Druce1 lost $0.10 $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Holdem OnGame 4 Players Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.comStacks:CO Hero ($18.41) BTN Jonas061989 ( $9.39) SB Druce1 ($4.25) BB assel1986 ($10) Pre-Flop: ( $0.15, 4 players) Hero is CO Hero raises to $0.30, 1 fold, Druce1 calls $0.25, assel1986 calls $0.20 Flop: ( $0.90, 3 players) Druce1 checks, assel1986 checks, Hero bets $0.70, Druce1 folds, assel1986 calls $0.70 Turn: ( $2.30, 2 players) assel1986 bets $1.10, Hero calls $1.10 River: ( $4.50, 2 players) assel1986 bets $7.90, Hero calls $7.90 Final Pot: $20.30assel1986 shows Hero shows Hero wins $19.29 (net +$9.29) Druce1 lost $0.30 assel1986 lost $10 $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Holdem OnGame 5 Players Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.comStacks:UTG vkand ( $12.01) CO Hero ($14.28) BTN Jocsont ($10) SB george007_x ( $12.29) BB artia79 ( $9.91) Pre-Flop: ( $0.15, 5 players) Hero is CO 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.40, Jocsont raises to $1.35, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.95 Flop: ( $2.85, 2 players) Hero checks, Jocsont bets $2.85, Hero goes all-in $12.93, Jocsont calls $5.80 Turn: ( $24.43, 2 players, 1 all-in) River: ( $24.43, 2 players, 1 all-in) Final Pot: $24.43Hero shows Jocsont shows Hero wins $23.43 (net +$9.15) Jocsont lost $10 , malo tuge i jada... $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Holdem OnGame 4 Players Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.comStacks:CO vkand ($16.01) BTN Hero ($27.54) SB Jocsont ($13.28) BB artia79 ( $10.48) Pre-Flop: ( $0.15, 4 players) Hero is BTN vkand calls $0.10, Hero raises to $0.45, Jocsont calls $0.40, 1 fold, vkand calls $0.35 Flop: ( $1.45, 3 players) Jocsont checks, vkand checks, Hero bets $1.25, Jocsont raises to $5.20, vkand folds, Hero goes all-in $27.09, Jocsont calls $7.63 Turn: ( $41.37, 2 players, 1 all-in) River: ( $41.37, 2 players, 1 all-in) Final Pot: $41.37Jocsont shows Hero shows Jocsont wins $25.76 (net +$12.48) Hero collects $14.26 (net -$13.28) vkand lost $0.45 (Ovdje mi ova dvojica još uvijek nisu jasna, ali bitno da kad ja pokupim set jedan pokupi runner runner skalu, a drugi runner runner boju.Sva sreća da je kompjuter friški pa je sve ostalo na mjestu) $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Holdem OnGame 5 Players Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.comStacks:UTG Kisfoka1907 ($11.30) CO MBZ84 ($6.67) BTN szandra911 ($17.94) SB MIRROR38 ($4.31) BB Hero ($10) Pre-Flop: ( $0.15, 5 players) Hero is BB Kisfoka1907 raises to $0.50, MBZ84 calls $0.50, szandra911 calls $0.50, MIRROR38 calls $0.45, Hero calls $0.40 Flop: ( $2.50, 5 players) MIRROR38 checks, Hero checks, Kisfoka1907 bets $1.25, MBZ84 calls $1.25, 1 fold, MIRROR38 calls $1.25, Hero raises to $6, Kisfoka1907 folds, MBZ84 calls $4.75, MIRROR38 calls $2.56 Turn: ( $19.56, 3 players) Hero bets $0.20, MBZ84 calls $0.17 River: ( $19.93, 3 players) Final Pot: $19.93MIRROR38 shows Hero shows MBZ84 shows MIRROR38 wins $14.43 (net +$10.12) MBZ84 collects $4.49 (net -$2.18) Hero collects $0.03 (net -$6.67) Kisfoka1907 lost $1.75 szandra911 lost $0.50 Nije velki pot, al je river call skroz ok $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Holdem OnGame 4 Players Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.comStacks:CO surfinUSA ($10.48) BTN angelis_x ( $20.70) SB herkules71 ( $15.01) BB Hero ($14.70) Pre-Flop: ( $0.15, 4 players) Hero is BB surfinUSA raises to $0.40, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.30 Flop: ( $0.85, 2 players) Hero checks, surfinUSA bets $0.60, Hero calls $0.60 Turn: ( $2.05, 2 players) Hero checks, surfinUSA checks River: ( $2.05, 2 players) Hero checks, surfinUSA bets $1.50, Hero calls $1.50 Final Pot: $5.05Hero shows surfinUSA shows Hero wins $4.80 (net +$2.30) surfinUSA lost $2.50 Suma sumarum zadnja 2 dana kolko sam na bwinu: 7h, 2250 ruku, 43.88($USD), 116,54($USD EV). Što se same igre tiče, zadnjih 2 tjedna sam pročitao nekoliko različitih literatura i pogledao preko 10 videa što mi je dosta utjecalo na igru tako da sam sa nekih 17/13 došao na 22/15, 3bet je oko 3. Iako je uzorak mali, lijepo je vidjeti 20bb/100 unatoč EV razlici, a pogotovo što sam se do sada kretao cca 3bb/100. U svakom slučaju, vidjet ćemo što će veći sample reći. | |
| | | dRxx23 Jedan par
Number of posts : 80 Location : Bukovlje Poker Site : PokerStars Karma : 1
| Subject: Re: Boža zvani pub 05.02.11 2:11 | |
| o taj je pratio karte ko da vidi kroz njih.uvijek ladan ko špricer uvjek opasno tih. i samo kad ga tera maler on bi rekao stih svi jos pamte reci kojim maler tera Boza zvani Pub.
Teraj maler:)
jesi prije igrao na Starsima na tim limitima?kakva ti se čini razlika u kvaliteti među igračima?
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| | | sinisaT5 Tris
Number of posts : 161 Location : Zagreb Poker Site : Pokerstars Karma : 5
| Subject: Re: Boža zvani pub 05.02.11 9:42 | |
| Na Starsima sam igrao na početku karijere (prebacujem se s kuće na kuću rješavajući bonuse) pa se nisam previše zadržavao tamo, a kao i većina početnika počeo sam sa turnirima tako da cash nisam igrao na Starsima. Prvi sam igrao na Full Tiltu koji je možda najbliži Starsu 0.02$/0.05$ i spušio prvih 100$ jer sam bio takva nitčina i na turnirima, a pogotovo kad sam došao na cash 6max jer sam mislio da je igra ko na turnirima. Ugl. mislim da Starsi imaju (kao i Tilt) bolje igrače od većine ostalih kuća, ako zbog ničeg drugog onda iz razloga što sve ostale kuće imaju i casino i kladionicu u softveru pa uvijek na stolove doletavaju momci koji se žele malo zabaviti. Ono što ja mislim općenito vezano uz limite na kojima sam do sada igrao je: NL2-ne igrati jer ubija u pojam, NL5 je home game, bez teških situacija i spotova(osim prvih 100$ na Tiltu i dobra je podloga za ufurat se u online grindanje, NL10(koji mi je u početku stvarao užasan pritisak) mi je sada easy game što je i logično obzirom da na njemu imam cca 150000 ruku, a na NL20 imam manji sample, a razliku bi definirao ovako: na NL10 sjedim ja i još 1 reg, na NL20 sjedim ja i još 2 rega. Kad ću imati veći sample možda ću moći dati neko bolje objašnjenje. Vidim da sam se raspisao previše u širinu, pa da skratim: frend mi igra NL50 na Tiltu i kaže da su i na Tiltu i na Starsu igrači kvalitetniji na svim razinama tako da ti je laka lova somwhere outhere. Eh, i za kraj:Sa svalerske strane nije spado u tarzane Al' daleko o tog da je bio zec Im'o je neku tu i tamo al' svi vrlo dobro znamo Da kod zena igra neki peti kec Ljubav je igra u kojoj cesto ne pali blef Srce se otvara teze nego najbolji sef Im'o je on svoje dame karo, pik, herc i tref I bio im je veran sve do sudnjeg dana Boza zvani Pub | |
| | | stu Skala
Number of posts : 441 Location : Rijeka/Zagreb Poker Site : PokerStars Karma : 12
| Subject: Re: Boža zvani pub 05.02.11 9:52 | |
| guraj bager = teraj maler | |
| | | DisD Team Pokerica
Number of posts : 1456 Location : Zagreb Poker Site : Unibet, GoalWin, Party Poker, Expekt Karma : 74
| Subject: Re: Boža zvani pub 05.02.11 12:20 | |
| - stu wrote:
- guraj bager = teraj maler
+1 | |
| | | DirtyCash90s Boja
Number of posts : 578 Location : Zagreb Poker Site : FTP Karma : 24
| Subject: Re: Boža zvani pub 05.02.11 12:34 | |
| Good luck.
PS. Pojačaj taj 3bet! Mergaj range (počni 3betat KQs, AQ, TT etc. IP) | |
| | | Tonci Pokerica
Number of posts : 1020 Location : Rijeka Poker Site : LuckyAce, Unibet, BetMost Karma : 87
| Subject: Re: Boža zvani pub 05.02.11 12:50 | |
| - DirtyCash90s wrote:
- Pojačaj taj 3bet! Mergaj range (počni 3betat KQs, AQ, TT etc. IP)
Ne mozes to iznijet kao cinjenicu, u nekim situacijama se moze ali generalno IP je bolje polarizirat 3betting range. | |
| | | DirtyCash90s Boja
Number of posts : 578 Location : Zagreb Poker Site : FTP Karma : 24
| Subject: Re: Boža zvani pub 05.02.11 12:53 | |
| Sinisa je frend i znam kako igra i znam mu leakove. Već sam mu par puta rekao za to pa sam sad i napisao . Nisam mislio to iznosit kao činjenicu već zato što su igrači tamo di on igra više fishy i pretp. da će callat sa losijim handovima pa nikad neće dobit 4bet bluff. | |
| | | sinisaT5 Tris
Number of posts : 161 Location : Zagreb Poker Site : Pokerstars Karma : 5
| Subject: Re: Boža zvani pub 06.02.11 3:17 | |
| Danas sam se konačno i za sve vijeke vjekova preselio na NL20. Razlike(barem na bwin-u tj. ongamu) nema apsolutno nikakve, igrači su užasno loši. Igrao sam 2 stola da se priviknem za početak, svi limpaju, na 2 stola samo 1 reg, u cca 400 handova nisam pobrao ni jedan 3bet lol! Statsi su također zadovoljavajući, 24/17 3bet 5, jedino ovaj agg nikako da prijeđe 2. Nije bilo nekih većih potova, cca 2h 24$+. Muči me jedan hand protiv ribe koja ima statse 65/20, zanima me jesam li trebao betat river. $0.10/$0.20 No Limit Holdem OnGame 5 Players Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.comStacks:UTG Partala4 ( $19.60) CO militans ( $39.81) BTN JULMA_HENRI ( $20.70) SB KISLLIY ($27.13) BB Hero ($29.96) Pre-Flop: ( $0.30, 5 players) Hero is BB 3 folds, KISLLIY raises to $0.80, Hero calls $0.60 Flop: ( $1.60, 2 players) KISLLIY checks, Hero bets $1.20, KISLLIY calls $1.20 Turn: ( $4, 2 players) KISLLIY checks, Hero bets $2.50, KISLLIY calls $2.50 River: ( $9, 2 players) KISLLIY checks, Hero checks Final Pot: $9KISLLIY shows Hero shows Hero wins $8.55 (net +$4.05) KISLLIY lost $4.50 Bili su i dvaput AA, ali nijednom nisam bio presretan sa boardom,al ako ništa drugo, oba su puta prošli na jedvite jade. $0.10/$0.20 No Limit Holdem OnGame 5 Players Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.comStacks:UTG Omno ($15.30) CO Hero ($21.16) BTN kleniowyjaz ($40.11) SB Purfica x ( $19) BB montageprofi ($24.57) Pre-Flop: ( $0.30, 5 players) Hero is CO Omno calls $0.20, Hero raises to $0.90, kleniowyjaz calls $0.90, 1 fold, montageprofi calls $0.70, Omno calls $0.70 Flop: ( $3.70, 4 players) montageprofi bets $1.90, 1 fold, Hero calls $1.90, 1 foldTurn: ( $7.50, 2 players) montageprofi bets $3.80, Hero calls $3.80 River: ( $15.10, 2 players) montageprofi checks, Hero checks Final Pot: $15.10montageprofi shows Hero shows Hero wins $14.35 (net +$7.75) montageprofi lost $6.60 Omno lost $0.90 kleniowyjaz lost $0.90 $0.10/$0.20 No Limit Holdem OnGame 5 Players Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.comStacks:UTG vin2009xx ($37.83) CO MatusV7 ( $18.89) BTN penbI4 ( $21.25) SB janmulv ($12.12) BB Hero ($20) Pre-Flop: ( $0.30, 5 players) Hero is BB vin2009xx raises to $0.40, 2 folds, janmulv calls $0.30, Hero raises to $1.75, vin2009xx calls $1.35, janmulv foldsFlop: ( $3.90, 2 players) Hero checks, vin2009xx checks Turn: ( $3.90, 2 players) Hero checks, vin2009xx bets $3.90, Hero calls $3.90 River: ( $11.70, 2 players) Hero checks, vin2009xx checks Final Pot: $11.70Hero shows Hero wins $11.12 (net +$5.47) janmulv lost $0.40 vin2009xx lost $5.65 | |
| | | DirtyCash90s Boja
Number of posts : 578 Location : Zagreb Poker Site : FTP Karma : 24
| Subject: Re: Boža zvani pub 06.02.11 12:17 | |
| Tu se vidi zašto ti agg i je ispod 2 1. hand obavezno bet river jer ne mijenja ništa. Još bi kužio check da je turn bio , a river , ali ovako nema smisla (i sa na riveru bi trebao betat river) 2. Raise flop. Ima on dosta kombinacija par+gutshot, a pošto leada u tebe vjerojatno mu se hand sviđa. Moraš naplatit taj top set 3. bet flop, turn možda možeš chekirat makar bi ga ja betao vjerojatno. Villian će imat puno kombinacija par + OESD. Ugl. neznam jel si to probao gledat na taj način, al zbog prepasivne igre si izgubio value od nekih 20tak $. | |
| | | Tonci Pokerica
Number of posts : 1020 Location : Rijeka Poker Site : LuckyAce, Unibet, BetMost Karma : 87
| Subject: Re: Boža zvani pub 06.02.11 13:20 | |
| Curis previse $ tako pasivnom igrom, nauci value betat svoje handove (igras kao da si scared money)... 1. Ovisi o villanu, generalno u tom spotu mozes trazit value na riveru od TP handova a od 65/20 CS-a mozes uvijek. 2. Ne mogu vjerovat da si tako odigrao flop. 3. Ne mogu vjerovat da nisi betao flop (osima ako je villan manijak pa si mislio c/r).
Preispitaj malo thinking proces tijekom handova, nemoj razmisljat "samo cu callat jer bi villan mogao imat sklau" ili "villan je mozda pogodio set pa cu checkirat" jer gubis puno valuea kad imas bolji hand a oni ga dobivaju kad imaju bolji hand (jer se ti u ovim spotovima neces bacit), + dobivaju free karte tj. beskonacne oddse kad imaju losiji hand... Uvijek izvaži svaku opciju kad donosis odluku jeli to bet, raise, c/c, c/f, c/r itd... i imaj odgovor zasto je to najbolja opcija.
Sretno | |
| | | sinisaT5 Tris
Number of posts : 161 Location : Zagreb Poker Site : Pokerstars Karma : 5
| Subject: Re: Boža zvani pub 06.02.11 18:20 | |
| Thinking proces je bio sljedeći: 1. hand nisam betao iz 2 razloga: jedan je što je 20ak handova prije slowplayao monstera,pa sam radije check behind-o(u tom trenutku mi je bio dobar razlog, sada mi se malo manje sviđa) a drugi je što mi se nikako nije svidio board, jer osim flasha, može imati bilo koju kombinaciju Ax. S A9,AT bi betao river, ovako sam cb, al s obzirom na statse sam trebao to betat, maj bed. 2. hand:katastrofalno odigrano, točka. 3. hand se ne slažem s vama. Check je bio radi pot contola, a drugi razlog je što mi je pola karata koje dođu scary i na koje bi se doveo u tešku situaciju, jednostavno smatram da mi je došao najgori mogući board(uz 9TJ,TJQ).
"Preispitaj malo thinking proces ...... Uvijek izvaži svaku opciju kad donosis odluku jeli to bet, raise, c/c, c/f, c/r itd... i imaj odgovor zasto je to najbolja opcija." Sjedi, 5! | |
| | | Tonci Pokerica
Number of posts : 1020 Location : Rijeka Poker Site : LuckyAce, Unibet, BetMost Karma : 87
| Subject: Re: Boža zvani pub 06.02.11 18:47 | |
| - sinisaT5 wrote:
- Thinking proces je bio sljedeći:
3. hand se ne slažem s vama. Check je bio radi pot contola, a drugi razlog je što mi je pola karata koje dođu scary i na koje bi se doveo u tešku situaciju, jednostavno smatram da mi je došao najgori mogući board(uz 9TJ,TJQ). U 3betanom potu sa AA nemas sta pot kontrolat pogotovo OOP, a i nema puno nezgodnih karata ipak imas As, ali i da ima potencijalnih "nezgodnih" karata to nije dobar razlog za check, bas suprotno jer ako ima dosta karata koje ti mogu ubit akciju onda betas sto vise. | |
| | | sinisaT5 Tris
Number of posts : 161 Location : Zagreb Poker Site : Pokerstars Karma : 5
| Subject: Re: Boža zvani pub 07.02.11 23:43 | |
| Gotov i današnji session. Bilo je nekoliko zanimljivih handova, sve više manje standard. Da ne zaboravim, jel zna itko gdje na bwinu mogu vidjeti koliko imam player pointsa jer ih nigdje ne mogu naći? $0.10/$0.20 No Limit Holdem OnGame 5 Players Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.comStacks:UTG LukeG1990 ($19.70) CO julyy66 ( $22.77) BTN Grande453 ($16.33) SB Hero ($19.23) BB Ricsard009 ( $28.72) Pre-Flop: ( $0.30, 5 players) Hero is SB LukeG1990 raises to $0.80, 1 fold, Grande453 calls $0.80, Hero raises to $3.50, 1 fold, LukeG1990 folds, Grande453 calls $2.70 Flop: ( $8, 2 players) Hero bets $5, Grande453 goes all-in $12.83, Hero calls $7.83 Turn: ( $33.66, 2 players, 1 all-in) River: ( $33.66, 2 players, 1 all-in) Final Pot: $33.66Hero shows Grande453 shows Hero wins $32.16 (net +$15.83) LukeG1990 lost $0.80 Grande453 lost $16.33 $0.10/$0.20 No Limit Holdem OnGame 4 Players Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.comStacks:CO Ricsard009 ( $25.38) BTN LukeG1990 ( $20.44) SB Grande453 ($22.23) BB Hero ($19.70) Pre-Flop: ( $0.30, 4 players) Hero is BB 2 folds, Grande453 calls $0.10, Hero raises to $0.80, Grande453 calls $0.60 Flop: ( $1.60, 2 players) Grande453 bets $0.80, Hero raises to $3.20, Grande453 calls $2.40 Turn: ( $8, 2 players) Grande453 checks, Hero bets $5.70, Grande453 calls $5.70 River: ( $19.40, 2 players) Grande453 checks, Hero checks Final Pot: $19.40Grande453 shows Hero shows Hero wins $18.43 (net +$8.73) Grande453 lost $9.70 I jedan neuspio pokušaj bluffa, thiking proces mi je bio skroz krivi, vs TAG-a koji lida flop i lida turn na dry boardu. $0.10/$0.20 No Limit Holdem OnGame 5 Players Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.comStacks:UTG sapalin15 ( $25.17) CO Hero ($35.15) BTN runrun xx ($12.86) SB _csabu_ ( $20.31) BB adiwedkarz ($38.08) Pre-Flop: ( $0.30, 5 players) Hero is CO 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.60, runrun xx calls $0.60, 1 fold, adiwedkarz calls $0.40 Flop: ( $1.90, 3 players) adiwedkarz bets $1.40, Hero calls $1.40, runrun xx foldsTurn: ( $4.70, 2 players) adiwedkarz bets $3.50, Hero calls $3.50 River: ( $11.70, 2 players) adiwedkarz checks, Hero bets $8, adiwedkarz calls $8 Final Pot: $27.70adiwedkarz shows Hero shows adiwedkarz wins $26.32 (net +$12.82) Hero lost $13.50 runrun xx lost $0.60 Suma sumarum prvih tjedan dana: 4000 handova, 73$(USD$), 145$(USD$EV), 23/16 , 3bet 3,7, agg me sve sram napisat, bum stavio kad ga popravim. | |
| | | DirtyCash90s Boja
Number of posts : 578 Location : Zagreb Poker Site : FTP Karma : 24
| Subject: Re: Boža zvani pub 07.02.11 23:45 | |
| Ovaj bluff na riveru stvarno nema smisla. S čega si ga točno mislio maknut? | |
| | | ribaaaaaa Tris
Number of posts : 177 Location : Zagreb Poker Site : - Karma : 36
| Subject: Re: Boža zvani pub 08.02.11 2:39 | |
| Trebao si zgurat aseve na riveru kad je villain imao 54. On bi shipao da ima skalu.
Dry board????
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| | | sinisaT5 Tris
Number of posts : 161 Location : Zagreb Poker Site : Pokerstars Karma : 5
| Subject: Re: Boža zvani pub 08.02.11 9:00 | |
| - ribaaaaaa wrote:
- Trebao si zgurat aseve na riveru kad je villain imao 54. On bi shipao da ima skalu.
Dry board????
Slažem se da bi shipao da ima skalu, ali jel misliš da me plaća sa nečim što nije 7? Moja greška je što sam ja tu bio malo scary zbog boarda, iako sam mogao tu zgurat jer nikad tu neće checkirat 7. | |
| | | sinisaT5 Tris
Number of posts : 161 Location : Zagreb Poker Site : Pokerstars Karma : 5
| Subject: Re: Boža zvani pub 08.02.11 9:06 | |
| - DirtyCash90s wrote:
- Ovaj bluff na riveru stvarno nema smisla. S čega si ga točno mislio maknut?
Problem je što nisam razmišljao, pokazao je slabost na riveru i ja sam odlučio betat. Kad sam betao 8$ i nakon što je 5 sekundi prošlo a on razmišlja, a lidao je flop i turn dosta jako bio sam prilično siguran da ima set i da sam gotov jer ga bacit neće. Ugl, nisam razmišljao, točka. | |
| | | sinisaT5 Tris
Number of posts : 161 Location : Zagreb Poker Site : Pokerstars Karma : 5
| Subject: Re: Boža zvani pub 11.02.11 10:47 | |
| Ali da nijedan *ebeni bluff neće proći, a radim ih ono, svake prijestupne, i znam s kojeg sranja ga skidam, al ne, ne i ne, nećemo Siniši bacit second par!!!!! $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Holdem OnGame 3 Players Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.comStacks:BTN Hero ($12.63) SB helfar25 ($12.68) BB ANNATOM2010 ( $4.87) Pre-Flop: ( $0.15, 3 players) Hero is BTN Hero raises to $0.30, helfar25 calls $0.25, ANNATOM2010 foldsFlop: ( $0.70, 2 players) helfar25 bets $0.35, Hero raises to $1.25, helfar25 calls $0.90 Turn: ( $3.20, 2 players) helfar25 checks, Hero bets $2.40, helfar25 calls $2.40 River: ( $8, 2 players) helfar25 checks, Hero bets $8.68, helfar25 calls $8.68 Final Pot: $25.36helfar25 shows Hero shows helfar25 wins $24.10 (net +$11.47) Hero lost $12.63 | |
| | | dfable Pokerica
Number of posts : 1375 Location : Baderna-Istra Poker Site : Ongame Karma : 22
| Subject: Re: Boža zvani pub 11.02.11 11:27 | |
| Nije mu loš call. Turn ne bi betao jer ne mijenja ništa, callat če te sa čime je callao flop. As played river c/f river, ako malo razmišlja zna da baba isto tu ne mijenja puno. | |
| | | sinisaT5 Tris
Number of posts : 161 Location : Zagreb Poker Site : Pokerstars Karma : 5
| Subject: Re: Boža zvani pub 11.02.11 11:52 | |
| - dfable wrote:
- Nije mu loš call. Turn ne bi betao jer ne mijenja ništa, callat če te sa čime je callao flop. As played river c/f river, ako malo razmišlja zna da baba isto tu ne mijenja puno.
Raise-o sam ga na flopu,cbeto turn i river shove. Kako je on mogao misliti da je njegov J9 ovdje dobar? Line koji sam ja uzeo njemu nikad nemože predstavljati bilo koji hand koji je slabiji od njegovog, osim FD ili air-a. Po tebi, on je mene stavio na air od samog početka jer je to jedini hand za koji možeš reći da je dobar call nakon betanja sva 3 streeta? | |
| | | Brky Skala
Number of posts : 407 Location : Zagreb Poker Site : Full tilt Karma : 13
| Subject: Re: Boža zvani pub 11.02.11 12:33 | |
| kralju pa on tebe nije stavio. uopce. na nista. vidio je da ima TP i scallo te do kraja. da je turn bio K a river A opet bi te scallo | |
| | | dRxx23 Jedan par
Number of posts : 80 Location : Bukovlje Poker Site : PokerStars Karma : 1
| Subject: Re: Boža zvani pub 11.02.11 12:54 | |
| trojica ste za stolom samim time i početna jačina ruku se smanjuje.ovisno od dinamike za stolom ali u velikoj večini slučajeva bi dobio call na ovakav line.
u večini slučajeva 2 barella su sasvim dovoljna te ono što te calla na flopu i turnu vjerovatno će i na riveru.ali opet također treba kombinirati 3 barrell sa bluffom i sa valuom da nebi bili polarizirani.
evo sinoč sam igrao cash na starsima nakon dugog vremena NL 5...to je toliko tight igra da to dugo nisam vidio...nemam tracker ali jedno 80% ruku sam otvarao da nitko nebi ni prstom maknuo...jedino mi još predstavlja problem što previše blefiram tj slično ovom tvom primjeru ispaljujem u nekim sitvacijama 3 barell olako i to jaki overbet pokušavam skidati regove sa top para(nakon što sam prethodna dva puta okretao jače karte sa istim line-om) ali nekada jednostavno ne prolazi pa me to uvjek vrati za pola BI napočetak od onoga što sam prvotno uspjevao dobro odigrati.tako da treba pokušati u početku odmah vidjeti jel ima čak smisla ispaljivati i second barell jel neki jednostavno ne puštaju par i dočekati ih sa jačim kartama u drugim spotovima. | |
| | | Andre_787 Boja
Number of posts : 675 Location : Rijeka Poker Site : Poker stars Karma : 43
| Subject: Re: Boža zvani pub 11.02.11 13:00 | |
| ne gledat galfonda protiv neznam koga na $100/$200 pa pocet nabacivat balansirane rangove na micrp o razmisljat jesam li polariziran protiv nekog random fisha ili mogu li repat nuts protiv nita koji igra 20+ stolova...
80% igraca na micro limitima vidi svoje karte, board i nista vise i ne razmisljaju o tome sto bi ti mogao imat, kakav line imas, range, sto repas... ovdje ovaj na flopu i turnu vidi da ima top par i to mu je dovoljno da calla, ne razmislja o tome da bi ti mogao imati set npr, kad dodje overkarta na riveru uvjeri se da ti to vjerovatno nemas a ako imas to je bad beat i calla...
dosta igraca je na levelu 0, vecina je na lvl 1, zato nemojmo levelat sami sebe pa mislit da razmisljaju na neki drugaciji/bolji nacin
Level 0: I know nothing Level 1: What do I have? Level 2: What does my opponent have? Level 3: What does my opponent think I have? Level 4: What does my opponent think that I think they have? Level 5: What does my opponent think that I think they think I have? | |
| | | dRxx23 Jedan par
Number of posts : 80 Location : Bukovlje Poker Site : PokerStars Karma : 1
| Subject: Re: Boža zvani pub 11.02.11 13:41 | |
| što bi gledo galfonda kad ni neznam tko je taj...nije stvar u tome,neznam zašto misliš da je razina igre na nižim limitima toliko loša.nije ona loša nego je stvar u tome što velika večina igrača pogotovo regova neće ulaziti u velike potove bez nutseva pa ih je samim time i lakše skidati sa top para pogotovo ako sam prije toga u dva navarata mu uzeo pola BI-sa istim lineom tj agresivom.nerazmišljam o polarizaciji protiv igrača koji sjednu sa dollar ili dva nego o onima koji sjednu sa punim BI taj sigurno barem nešto razmišlja u glavi.uglavnom su igrači previše tight i sve se svodi na AAvs KK,flopani set vs jači flopani set što po meni ubija igru i zato vjerojatno i nemam baš strpljenja pretjerano igrati cash na microlimitima,ali to je daleko od toga da su igrači loši,nisu oni loši nego su samo strpljivi i čekaju svoju priliku.pa sinoč sam sjeo za stolom sa ClarkKentom pokerstars igračem...taj je na svaki 3 bet, te c-bet na flopu foldao. neigram cash pretjerano da se razumijemo nego tako kad sjednem otvorim 4-6 stolova i kažem ti uglavnom otvaram 60-80% ruku i praktiči se zajebavam bez da naiđem na ozbiljniji otpor osim ako je ručni par u pitanju ili nuts.nekad znam čisto otvarati da vidim koliko ću blindova pokupiti,zasad mi je rekord 8 handova zaredom:) | |
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