- Andre_787 wrote:
- turn bi b/f da dobijem value od 77, 99, TT...
+1
Slazem se sa Andreom, a river bi ovisno o villanu ili thin vbetali (cca 1/3 pota) ili c/f..
Sto se tice pot controla manje vise kao sto Andre kaze nemamo tu opciju kad smo OOP odnosno puno je teze kontrolirat pot.. ali IMO vecina micro igraca ne razumije bas koncept pot controla jer ga svode na "imam KK al villan moze imat 2para+ pa me raisat pa bolje da checkiram i sl.", a po meni bi trebali jednostavno vise razmisljat o villanovom rangeu i koliko value mogu ili ne mogu izvuc protiv tog rangea..
Evo c/p sam par recenica iz Baluge o pot controlu i range manipulationu
Anytime we have a hand, there is a desired amount of value that we are trying to achieve.
In any given spot we’re trying to obtain between 0 streets and 3+ streets of value. However, that desired
value changes street to street. Therefore, we need to be aware of two different types of value:
1) Static Value: This refers to the amount of value that we want on any given action.
Thus, preflop with AA, we want 3+ streets of value. If we have the nut flush postflop
on an unpaired board, we want 3+ streets of value. If we have A2 on an AQJ board,
we may decide we want 1 street of value on the flop, and then decide again that we
want no more value on a 4 turn and a 9 river.
2) Dynamic Value: This refers to the way that desired value changes throughout the
course of a hand. Let’s say that, in a deepstacked game, an opponent opens on the
button, and we 3-bet from the blinds with A♣A♠ (static value of 3+ streets), and he
4-bets. We 5-bet, and he calls. So far, we’ve been doing our job, trying to get 3+
streets of value. The flop comes down K♥Q♥J♥. Suddenly our desired value has
changed from 3+ streets to 0 streets. We will most likely need to check-fold
(depending on how much is behind of course). The ability to reevaluate value is what
separates good players from bad players and prevents us from becoming “married” to
a weak hand.
....
Consider our opponent’s range of hands. When he called preflop, we were ecstatic—KK
crushes his range and, assuming he would always reraise AA, we are 100% certain to be ahead
of his hand. A portion of his hand range contains an Ace, but that portion is far overshadowed
by hands like QJ, 76s, 88, and many, many others. Once the flop comes down A22, a small
portion of his range has improved to beat us, but the majority of his range is still far, far behind.
So, if we bet, we isolate ourselves with hands that beat us. If we check, we continue to play
against a wider range—and a range that we’re ahead of. This concept is called range
manipulation, and we’ll discuss it in more depth further on. Indeed, we can even continue to get
value from our hand, as checking behind often induces small bluffs from weak players. We can
definitely call at least one bet most of the time and be happy with the additional value.
Understanding when to check behind and when to bet is the essence of showdown theory.
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u ranoj poziciji dinem 4BB villian zove otvori se flop 
betam 3/4 pota villian call na turnu izađe 
ja checikram za pot control a vilan beta pot, šta sad tu zvati ili ne, ili ako zovemo pa na blank river villian ide all in, recimo da villian ima 30/15/2 stats. 
