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PostSubject: KK vs villain river donk bet   KK vs villain river donk bet Empty16.05.12 20:10

$0.02/$0.04 No Limit Holdem
OnGame
6 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($3.88)
UTG+1 ($4)
CO ($7.98)
Bond1806 (BTN) ($4.85)
SB ($3.87)
BB ($4.99)

Pre-Flop: ($0.10, 6 players) Bond1806 is BTN KK vs villain river donk bet 543369 KK vs villain river donk bet 625674
[UTG+1 posts $0.04]
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $0.08, 1 fold, Bond1806 raises to $0.24, 2 folds, UTG+1 calls $0.16

Flop: KK vs villain river donk bet 172565 KK vs villain river donk bet 366940 KK vs villain river donk bet 501779 ($0.54, 2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Bond1806 bets $0.30, UTG+1 calls $0.30

Turn: KK vs villain river donk bet 94236 ($1.14, 2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Bond1806 bets $0.70, UTG+1 calls $0.70

River: KK vs villain river donk bet 16726 ($2.54, 2 players)
UTG+1 goes all-in $2.76

Hero?

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PostSubject: Re: KK vs villain river donk bet   KK vs villain river donk bet Empty17.05.12 13:33

Ovo je call, 10 te ne plasi ni na koji nacin a sve ostalo je pre dry da bi bilo puno toga sto te beata.
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PostSubject: Re: KK vs villain river donk bet   KK vs villain river donk bet Empty17.05.12 14:46

10 me ne plasi i toga se ni ne plasim, ali ne vidim kaj bi tu on tak odigrao osim cistih blefova ili handova koji me dobivaju.
QQ bi vjerojatno 4betao PF, tak mi je najvjerojatniji hand 77 ili ako je jako loose pa je open rejzao i callao 3bet s QT.

Ne kuzim kak ja tu mogu callat ovo?
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PostSubject: Re: KK vs villain river donk bet   KK vs villain river donk bet Empty17.05.12 14:50

ako ne kužiš onda foldaj, easy game
al naravno da je ovo snap call
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PostSubject: Re: KK vs villain river donk bet   KK vs villain river donk bet Empty17.05.12 14:55

e ovako, igram pokerstars i nedostaje mi 4fpp da napunim onu crtu zelenu za 50$. bi li mi netko htio poslati 5-6$, pa mu vratim 10$ cim dobijem to, a trebati ce mi pola sata otprilike Smile Hvala
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PostSubject: Re: KK vs villain river donk bet   KK vs villain river donk bet Empty17.05.12 15:05

debakl, ajde posalji 5$, ako imas, vratim ti za pola sata 10, smao da uzmem tih 50$bonusa..
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PostSubject: Re: KK vs villain river donk bet   KK vs villain river donk bet Empty17.05.12 15:17

debakl wrote:
ako ne kužiš onda foldaj, easy game
al naravno da je ovo snap call

Wow stari, ti si se ziher rodio pametan.

Ja mislio da je svrha foruma da oni kaj znaju objasne onima koji ne znaju a ne da se pokazuje kak imamo veliku virtualnu kitu.

Trazim objasnjene igre u ovakvim spotovima a ne da mi ti solis pamet. Ak to nisi u stanju onda nemoj postat.
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PostSubject: Re: KK vs villain river donk bet   KK vs villain river donk bet Empty17.05.12 15:19

bond , ajde ti 5$ ako imas za stars mi posaljes, da bonus skupim Smile vratim ti 10
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Bi rado al ne igram na starsima Sad
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PostSubject: Re: KK vs villain river donk bet   KK vs villain river donk bet Empty17.05.12 15:23

ok, hvala!
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PostSubject: Re: KK vs villain river donk bet   KK vs villain river donk bet Empty17.05.12 15:58

Bond1974 wrote:
debakl wrote:
ako ne kužiš onda foldaj, easy game
al naravno da je ovo snap call

Wow stari, ti si se ziher rodio pametan.
lol cemu tenzije.. pa nije ti nis lose rekao.

back on topic..

Nikakav info o villanu?

Inace generalni savjet sto se sizeinga tice, ovako suhe flopove je sasvim uredu cbetat oko 1/2 pota ali moras vodit racuna da si nastimas betove tako da na riveru imas shove manji od pota, a to ces najlakse napravit da malo podebljas cbet na flopu (i pre flop jace 3betas), recimo kad cbetamo za blef 0.30$ je sasvim uredu, ali za value ja bi betao između 0.35 i 0.40$.

A sad sto se konkretno handa tice, opcenito ti jaki donk betovi na riveru su za value (i to ugl monsteri), pa spot ne izgleda ugodan ali stvar je u tome da je jedini monster u njegovom rangeu T (koju gotovo nikad nema u rangeu).. ako je villan radio nes slicno ranije i ostavio opcenit dojam da over playa TP handove ili spewa cudnim lineovima imas easy call, ako to nije slucaj nisi presretan ali ugl callas, razmisljao bi o foldu samo ako je villan pasivan fish ili nit..
Btw ne bi se cudio da villan okrene AQ, cak mi je to najlogicnije.. setove ce ugl drugacije odigrat na flopu il turnu, a T ne bi smio imat u rangeu..

p.s. a po nekom iskustvu tu sam znao vidit i hand kao 99 Very Happy ono valjda nezna sta napravit na riveru kao 'ne moze callat', pomisli 'ma nema valjda Q' i zgura Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: KK vs villain river donk bet   KK vs villain river donk bet Empty17.05.12 16:15

Tnx na objasnjenju. Pogotovo na ovom za bet sizing.
Nikakav read na villainu, tek 3. ruka s njim. Zato sam mu i dao kredita za neki monster.
Nisam stigao napravit analizu ruke da vidim matematicki kak to zgleda tak da ce mi onda biti jasnije.
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Ambasador wrote:
bond , ajde ti 5$ ako imas za stars mi posaljes, da bonus skupim Smile vratim ti 10

nemoj žicat lovu prvi dan kad dodješ na forum i to još u cash game dijelu foruma koji je namijenjen za strateške rasprave, to rade samo jazavci
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