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PostSubject: sb JJ vs NIT but   sb JJ vs NIT but Empty07.09.12 12:09

Lik je prokleti NIT na nekih 100 ruku. Statsi 11/5.


$0.02/$0.04 No Limit Holdem
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Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($5.46) 137bb
UTG+1 ($2.82) 71bb
CO ($4.09) 102bb
BTN ($3.63) 91bb
Bond1806 (SB) ($4.51) 113bb
BB ($4.32) 108bb

Pre-Flop: ($0.06, 6 players) Bond1806 is SB sb JJ vs NIT but 404458 sb JJ vs NIT but 44262
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.04, 1 fold, BTN calls $0.04, Bond1806 raises to $0.20, 1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.16, BTN calls $0.16

Flop: sb JJ vs NIT but 310972 sb JJ vs NIT but 884232 sb JJ vs NIT but 112118 ($0.64, 3 players)
Bond1806 bets $0.40, UTG+1 folds, BTN calls $0.40

Turn: sb JJ vs NIT but 366940 ($1.44, 2 players)
Bond1806 bets $1, BTN calls $1

River: sb JJ vs NIT but 94236 ($3.44, 2 players)
Bond1806 ????

Sa čime bi me tu nit callao 2 streeta? Da li je pogodio T za set ili 8 za full? Call range mu je 11%. To su uglavnom parovi i veliki suitani konektori.
Mislim da nije tip igrača koji bi callao dva streeta za FD na moje betove gdje nema oddove. TJ mislim da nema jer su kod mene 2. Ne znam.
Mislim da jer river shove OK!
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PostSubject: Re: sb JJ vs NIT but   sb JJ vs NIT but Empty07.09.12 14:44

hmm vs ovog nita bi mi c/f bio mozda i najdrazi, shove mi se cini pre thin, jer trazs value od 99, 98, 87 sa kojima te nece uvijek ni isplatit, a ne moras se brinut da ce te na riveru skinut sa boljeg handa (jer ti nitovi ugl igraju straight forward) pa milsim da mozes komotno c/f..
Vs "normalnog" igraca ovisno o njegovim tendencijama bi ili c/c (ako je agro) ili shoveao (ako je CS), dok mi c/f ne bi bila opcija, ali u ovom konkretnom slucaju c/f mi se cini bolja varijanta
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PostSubject: Re: sb JJ vs NIT but   sb JJ vs NIT but Empty07.09.12 16:02

C/f je i bio moj play iako sam gore napisao drugacije. Smetnu sam s uma U analizi ruke taj njegov limp call pf a koji bas smrdi na 22, 33. I to jos s buttona. Hebem ti igru.


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PostSubject: Re: sb JJ vs NIT but   sb JJ vs NIT but Empty07.09.12 23:29

lol 6max

imas jos statistika od villaina - postflop? vpip po pozicijama?
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PostSubject: Re: sb JJ vs NIT but   sb JJ vs NIT but Empty08.09.12 8:17

Pa posto je nitara i nije bas da je krcat nekim brojkama Smile

Koliko se sjecam nis specijalno.

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PostSubject: Re: sb JJ vs NIT but   sb JJ vs NIT but Empty08.09.12 9:44

Ne znam, za ovdje baciti morao bih osim što je nit znati i da nikad ne bluffa, bez te informacije nikad ne bih bacio. Uzmi u obzir da su promašeni FD i str8( j9 i 79) draw ali i činjenice da a) uglavnom event. setove takvi igrači rejzaju na drawi flopovima ili bar turnovima i b)jako je malo 10 u njegovom rangeu- 109,Q10, k10, imaš blokere za j10 a a10 bi valjda rejzao PF, tako da s obzirom na sve meni se CF čini preoprezna igra u ovoj situaciji.
Za odluku Između c/c i beta dosta ovisi o protivniku, možda bih s ipak rađe obzirom da je tighter, ukoliko nemam nikakvog drugog reada, odabrao c/c jel tighteri takvog tipa znaju rel. često ulaziti u bluffove u ovakvim spotovima..
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PostSubject: Re: sb JJ vs NIT but   sb JJ vs NIT but Empty08.09.12 10:00

Ok da je on tajter ali je nit. Mislim da s 11% vpip on tu nema J9, 79, qt i tomu slicne ruke.
Nisam stigao pogledat u stoveu ali 11% je jamo uzak range. Mislim da bi broadway karte rejzao.
Sve smrdi na 22, 33ali istina kaj velis da je mozda pretvorio neku ruku u blef.
Neki manji par il tak nekaj.
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PostSubject: Re: sb JJ vs NIT but   sb JJ vs NIT but Empty08.09.12 14:14

Bitnije je tu statistika za button raise jel i nit sa 11% zna otvarati na buttonu širi range, a i samo call na butonu ide mi u prilog tomu da je proširio range u tom spotu..Po meni je premalo kombinacija koje te bitaju da bih, bez jakog reada, na villanu ovdje bacio..
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PostSubject: Re: sb JJ vs NIT but   sb JJ vs NIT but Empty09.09.12 13:08


T nema, slabije ti ipak nece platiti tri streeta, eventualno thin bet, sto je ustvari bolje od c/c jer ce te ipak nekada kolati slabije. Ujedno ti je to i neki block bet ako je slow-ao qq,kk. Na njegov r fold jer ce to raditi samo sa setom,nekada kk,aa.
77,88,99,tt, cesto lose odigraju jer neznaju kaj bi sa njima neovisno o boardu...
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