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PostSubject: KK 3way   KK 3way Empty08.01.11 13:48

$0.10/$0.25 No Limit Holdem
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Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Hero ($29.56)
UTG+1 ANDREW1776 ($44.44) na 50 hendova igra 17/5 3bet 5.3
MP1 handekhan ($12.56)
MP2 delburt21 ($20.35)
CO GIPNOTEZ ($15.15)
BTN Genius4832 ($26.61)
SB xuhongming ($40.18)
BB Splashjet ($18.62) note:"flats QQ from EP raise on MP,i 3bet he calls,AJx flop,i bet 1/2 he calls,turn he donkbets allin" ocito fishy...

Pre-Flop: ($0.35, 8 players) Hero is UTG KK 3way 625674 KK 3way 543369
Hero raises to $0.75, ANDREW1776 calls $0.75, 5 folds, Splashjet calls $0.50

Flop: KK 3way 413786 KK 3way 22738 KK 3way 900176 ($2.35, 3 players)
Splashjet checks, Hero bets $1.75, ANDREW1776 calls $1.75, Splashjet raises to $3.50, Hero raises to $8.75, ANDREW1776 calls $7, Splashjet goes all-in $17.87, $9.12 to Hero ($20.06)?


znaci splashjet-a snap callam ali kaj s ovim iza kaj sve uredno calla ?? guram il foldam ?

znam znam 3bet veci od 11 pretpostavljam Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: KK 3way   KK 3way Empty08.01.11 14:00

u fr uvijek svi imaju hand/monster pa ovo foldam.
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PostSubject: Re: KK 3way   KK 3way Empty08.01.11 14:14

Ja bi preflop rejz 4bb. Mislim da splash ovdje može gurat i stvari kao 99-QQ, vise me strah andrewa koji nakon sto je callao oba puta ne folda na shove i ima nekakav hand. Trebalo bi stoveat al mislim da si behind ovdje.
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PostSubject: Re: KK 3way   KK 3way Empty08.01.11 14:58

vo je bet/fold flop uvijek u 3way potu
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PostSubject: Re: KK 3way   KK 3way Empty09.01.11 15:19

ne svidja mi je 3 bet na ovom boardu u rejzanom potu s dvojicom igraca, anderew ima tight/passive riblje statse tako da je vrlo tesko da ima slabiju ruku s kojom ce te platiti ako shoveas na 4 bet, za splasha je moguce da je behind ali i da ima monster tako da je ovo FOLF posto si tesko bolji od obojice
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PostSubject: Re: KK 3way   KK 3way Empty09.01.11 16:06

problem je u tome kaj kad ja samo callam 3bet dajem jebene oddse andrewu za karte tipa 44,77,99,9T i razne straight drawove jer je splashjet min 3betao,pa sam ga mislio izolirat i naravno gurat protiv njega,neznam,nekak mi je 3bet bolji od calla :/
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PostSubject: Re: KK 3way   KK 3way Empty09.01.11 18:05

mich_bjukenon wrote:
problem je u tome kaj kad ja samo callam 3bet dajem jebene oddse andrewu za karte tipa 44,77,99,9T i razne straight drawove jer je splashjet min 3betao,pa sam ga mislio izolirat i naravno gurat protiv njega,neznam,nekak mi je 3bet bolji od calla :/

Ajoj,ovo je jedna od traumatičnijih situacija sa UNL-a.Dovoljno puta sam osjetio na vlastitoj koži da bildanje pota sa overparom na ovako gnjusnom flopu ne može dobro završiti.Ovakav 3bet,koji je u odnosu na visinu pota minimalan,je poziv svim igračima koji su involvirani u hand da nastave sa jaaaako širokim rangeom jer imaju oddove.Loša stvar je ta da ako dobiješ dva calla,na turnu manje-više svaka karta 3-10 izgleda scary...dobro je to što ako villain koji je općenito jako pasivan(a ovaj prvi to je) 4bet shovea flop,imaš mjesta za fold,jer si najvjerovatnije behind.
3bet je tu možda bolji od calla,ali mislim da nije bolji od folda.
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PostSubject: Re: KK 3way   KK 3way Empty09.01.11 20:02

Chiro23 wrote:
3bet je tu možda bolji od calla,ali mislim da nije bolji od folda.

fold na fishev raise ?? mislim da je to nemoguce kad smo vrlo vjerovatno ispred njega,a 2.villain je zasad samo pratio moj cbet ...

trebal sam zaustaviti akciju odmah nakon raisea Smile
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PostSubject: Re: KK 3way   KK 3way Empty09.01.11 20:46

mini raise po mojim iskustvima uvijek znaci nuts... zasto bi on mini raisao do 3.50 a tada se vec u potu nalazi 6 $ i jos treci igrac koji to sve calla... overpair ili dva para bi svako normalan tu roknuo do 6-7 jer je board katastrofa, ali njemu se ocito jako svidja s tim mini raisom... kazes riba je i jos na BB .. zasto nebi imao 7-9 suited.. ja bi ovo veselo bacio ne dajuci si vise od 2 outa... ako ih i toliko ima...
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PostSubject: Re: KK 3way   KK 3way Empty09.01.11 23:27

easy fold!
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PostSubject: Re: KK 3way   KK 3way Empty10.01.11 10:40

DonkeyRi wrote:
easy fold!

nakon shovea fold,a sta nakon min raisea ??? meni tu fold nedolazi u obzir...ili sam ja fishy ili :/
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PostSubject: Re: KK 3way   KK 3way Empty10.01.11 10:50

Fold. Ovaj andrew ima monstera uvijek ovdje. Ako ti dokaže suprotno onda ok, ali do onda fold.
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