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PostSubject: NL50 KQo 3bet pot   NL50 KQo 3bet pot Empty06.08.09 17:37

protivnik je pomalo laggy 30/23 (50-ak ruku), mislio sam da kupi dead money pa sam ga raisao! ispravno?
koji je njegov 3b call range?

$0.25/$0.5 No Limit Holdem
6 players
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Stacks:
BTN ($54.82)
SB ($24.50)
Hero (BB) ($53.48)

Pre-flop: ($1.25, 6 players) Hero is BB NL50 KQo 3bet pot 674367 NL50 KQo 3bet pot 543369
BB checks, 1 fold, yogaGOGO raises to $2.75, 2 folds, Hero raises to $8, BB folds, yogaGOGO calls $5.25

Flop: NL50 KQo 3bet pot 384850 NL50 KQo 3bet pot 625674 NL50 KQo 3bet pot 253753 ($16.75, 2 players)
Hero bets $8, yogaGOGO calls $8

Turn: NL50 KQo 3bet pot 44262 ($32.75, 2 players)
Hero bets $14, yogaGOGO calls $14

River: NL50 KQo 3bet pot 366940 ($60.75, 2 players)
Hero ?
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PostSubject: Re: NL50 KQo 3bet pot   NL50 KQo 3bet pot Empty06.08.09 19:05

ja bih check/call ...
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PostSubject: Re: NL50 KQo 3bet pot   NL50 KQo 3bet pot Empty06.08.09 19:16

ostalo ti je premalo da bi imao ikakve druge opcije nego uložiti preostalih 20 dolara. AK i KJ su jedine logične ruke koje te beataju (ponekad AA), ponekad ćeš dobiti value ako checkiraš i onda promašeni flush draw pokuša blefati ali mislim da je generalno bolje i profitabilnije betati
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PostSubject: Re: NL50 KQo 3bet pot   NL50 KQo 3bet pot Empty06.08.09 21:55

check/callao sam bet od $10.14 jer nisam vidio hand iz kojeg bi mogao izvući value ali u ruci najviše sam se osječao izgubljeno u definiranju njegovog preflop rangea. Na šta bi ga vi stavili?
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PostSubject: Re: NL50 KQo 3bet pot   NL50 KQo 3bet pot Empty06.08.09 22:59

bresha wrote:
check/callao sam bet od $10.14 jer nisam vidio hand iz kojeg bi mogao izvući value ali u ruci najviše sam se osječao izgubljeno u definiranju njegovog preflop rangea. Na šta bi ga vi stavili?

-po meni nije AA jer sam siguran da bi na aseve odigrao agresivnije preflop a vjerovatno i postflop all in, s obzirom da je prijetio flush
-ne stavljam ga ni na Ak jer mi malo cudan cold call na flopu a i na turnu s obzirom na mogucnost flusha a i river bet mi ne spada u tu kategoriju
ove dvije ruke sam skoro 100% da nisu bile

- ne vjerujem ni u promaseni flush draw jer bi river bet bio all in, nekak mi se cini
da ove ribetine na tim limitima tako razmisljajo, ali je moguce
- malo vjerovatno je da ima QQ ili 1010 jer je value bet na riveru premali
- sve mi se cini da je ovdje bio neki monster ili JJ ili neki sjuted A4(to je i ruka za koju ja glasam) pa se malo uplasio treceg kriza na riveru lol, ili je zelio da zoves sa nekim losijim k, neznam nisam vise pametan Surrender
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PostSubject: Re: NL50 KQo 3bet pot   NL50 KQo 3bet pot Empty06.08.09 23:01

KJ je takodjer izgledan
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PostSubject: Re: NL50 KQo 3bet pot   NL50 KQo 3bet pot Empty07.08.09 5:45

ja bih ga isto stavio na K sigurno, najvjerovatnije K10,KJ ili možda čak ista ruka kao i u tebe KQ, a mislim da bi AK, raisao na flopu.
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PostSubject: Re: NL50 KQo 3bet pot   NL50 KQo 3bet pot Empty07.08.09 6:24

44 ili A4s
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PostSubject: Re: NL50 KQo 3bet pot   NL50 KQo 3bet pot Empty18.08.09 22:30

Njegov 3bet call range je recimo:

22+,A2s+,KTs+,QTs+,JTs,T9s,98s,87s,ATo+,KJo+,QJo

To pod pretpostavkom da nije bas dobar igrac jer valjda 75% ovoga bi bio los 3bet call PF.

Ovo bi bio bolji range za 3bet call u njegovom slucaju:

22+,AQs+,A5s-A2s,KQs,AKo
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River je fistpumping all in.
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