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PostSubject: NL10 tptk flop shove   NL10 tptk flop shove Empty03.11.09 22:13

Koliko je ovaj shove dobar? Tu sam se bojao da je na flush drawu, tipa da ima neke dvije jake suited slike, ili neki par tipa 99-QQ btw pa sam rekao idemo all in. lik je dobar igrac 21/21/velik af

$0.05/$0.10 No Limit Holdem
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6 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Tentaculat ($10)
UTG+1 Hero ($20.10)
CO Chainik555 ($10.79)
BTN Carghost ($10.36)
SB e1ekt_ru ($10.53)
BB badabadaboom ($14.17)

Pre-Flop: ($0.15, 6 players) Hero is UTG+1 NL10 tptk flop shove 457555 NL10 tptk flop shove 625674
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.65, 3 folds, badabadaboom raises to $1.95, Hero calls $1.30

Flop: NL10 tptk flop shove 272258 NL10 tptk flop shove 273445 NL10 tptk flop shove 621111 ($3.95, 2 players)
badabadaboom bets $2.40, Hero goes all-in $18.15, badabadaboom folds

Final Pot: $24.50

Hero wins $24.07 (net +$3.97)

badabadaboom lost $4.35
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PostSubject: Re: NL10 tptk flop shove   NL10 tptk flop shove Empty04.11.09 12:59

Ako mislis da te voljan pozvati sa flush drawom ovdje ili sa slabijom kartom onda super. Iako, ja cesto ako mislim da je protivnik na flush drawu pricekam sigurnu turn kartu i onda mu to napravim jer mu equity na turnu pada za 1/2.
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PostSubject: Re: NL10 tptk flop shove   NL10 tptk flop shove Empty04.11.09 14:53

Onda cu tako ubuduce radit, znaci koliko bi ti betao onda na ovakvom flopu, i što bi napravio da, recimo lik calla, dođe 3 srce?
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PostSubject: Re: NL10 tptk flop shove   NL10 tptk flop shove Empty04.11.09 23:56

Mnogi nisu skloni velikim bluffovima kada padne jos jedna od boje.

Ne kazem da treba uvijek biti pasivan jer raiseom na flopu raiseamo za value jer smatramo da ce nas losija ruka pozvati i dalje juriti ono sto zeli juriti. Nekada se nece odmah na flopu odluciti ostaviti cijeli stack na flush draw i zato mu trebamo pokusati izmusti sto je vise moguce u procesu a da mu opet ne damo oddove da legitimno i juri ruku koju zeli. To je taj balans koji je dosta bitan u igri i koji treba postici.

Ja dakle, protiv raisea nemam apsolutno nista ovdje, dapace, ali ako recimo imas note da igrac voli juriti flush drawove, onda je tvoja igra dobra, ali call i raise na turnu je jos bolja (ako turn nije boja).

Ako pak na turnu padne boja onda je call i dalje dobra opcija jer ne valja sada ruku pretvarati u bluff.
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PostSubject: Re: NL10 tptk flop shove   NL10 tptk flop shove Empty06.11.09 1:21

e hvala. još jedno pitanje, igram na jednoj stranici gdje su igraci katastrofalno loši, callaju sve, divljaju nikad ih nemogu stavit na range, pa da te pitam kako se postavit protiv ovakvih igraca

1) vpip preko 50%
2) callaju sve 5xbb raiseove, i tako cjeli stol (6 max)
3) kad god pokusam bluffat i semi bluffat na flopu na kojem su mi, recimo na full tiltu foldali ovi ladno callaju sa bilo cime
4) short stackeri

razmisljao sam, o dosta uber tajt igri van pozicije, rejzovima po 6bb na buttonu i cut offu, a oop cak i po 10-15 bb. Ako me promasi flop, e tu sad ne znam sta da radim, kad god pokusam ih blefat sve callaju i onda dominiraju recimo, moj AK oop, sa govnima tipa 7 4 offs i sl : ))

pfr range bi bio ovakav, po poker stoveu

UTG 11%
MP 11%
CO 28%
BT-SB-BB 29%

re raise, ili shove preflop bi callao sa AA,AKs,AKo,KK,QQ, ako je ekstra debil i tilta nekad i JJ, TT, mozda AQ...

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